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John Stossel Debates Drug Legalization with Ann Coulter

I enjoyed watching this, although what we get from Ann Coulter here is pretty much what you'd expect from your average kneejerk drug-hating authoritarian. Though obnoxious at times, keep in mind that you're watching a perfectly civil conversation about legalizing drugs on a FOX program. That's awesome.


(Part 2 here)

Dialogue like this was nowhere to be found in the mainstream press even a few short years ago, and Ann Coulter's nonsense notwithstanding, this sort of programming goes a long way towards legitimizing opposition to the war on drugs. By engaging people like Coulter, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly on the topic of drug legalization, Stossel is forcing conservative opinion leaders to directly and publicly acknowledge the case for reform.

How they initially react isn't really even that important compared to the long-term impact of putting this debate where the general public can see it. Prominent media personalities are scarcely, if ever, held accountable for their views about drug policy and simply planting the idea in their head creates new opportunities to help them take interest in the issue and potentially develop a more informed perspective.

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Ann is her usual lying

Ann is her usual lying ignorant self. Not everyone is on welfare.

Ann Coulter is an evil

Ann Coulter is an evil person.  It is okay that cigarette smokers are allowed because "they die early?"  WTF?  Same as motorcyclists?  And all illegal drug users are on welfare?  This sick woman should be kicked off the air.

Ann Coulter’s Small World

Her daddy was rich.  So Ann Coulter can afford to be deeply unapologetic about her bourgeois world view.  At least she’s candid about it.  She’s very useful to the left in that way.  Despite her truck-stop-queen looks, Coulter is really repulsive to a wide variety of people, including some on the right.

In Coulter’s comfy little bubble, Americans have the right to starve to death, but that’s about it.  According to Ann, starving Americans aren’t supposed to light up some nice bud, or even drink alcohol to get a buzz.  Despite her obvious support for the tobacco industry, Ann Coulter is the type of person who would refuse to give a dying man a last cigarette.  She’s the ultimate poster child for sadomoralism.

For the stated reasons, Ann Coulter is perfectly qualified to promote and support prohibition.  Coulter instills within her fetid character all the anti-social attributes found in the drug war: greed, hate, hypocrisy...you name it.  When you think drug war, think Ann Coulter. 

Giordano

Ann Coulter

There is absolutely no way you can convince me she doesn't burn one from time to time. Legalize Marijuana Now! Support WikiLeaks!

Wow this woman is foolish and ignorant

Conservative America loves fallacious reasoning. But I do not, and I will say it reasonably that NOT ALL of conservative America loves fallacious reasoning, just as MOST drug-users would function fine at their job if given the opportunity. How do I know this? Take a guess....I have seen it first hand. People go do their jobs fine on all sorts of prescription drugs and do the same on cannabis. Harder drugs like meth, crack, and Alcohol not so much. 

Counter-Argument to Ann's Welfare problem

The drug-war causes a welfare problem and crowds prisons. Labeled "criminals" due to the drug-war cannot get jobs. Stop unjust drug testing and arrests and less people will go on welfare and our workforce won't be in jail.

drug war welfare state

The welfare state kicks in the moment drug offenders are sent to prison.  Most drug offenders in prison are young minority men and many of them have children and often more children than white families; thus, sending these guys to prison is a major contributor to the increased the number of "single" women w/ children on welfare.

The reality of it is that

The reality of it is that harmful drugs like crack and meth, often associated with welfare, make up a very small portion of the war on drugs.  Responsible marijuana consumers are often some of the brightest people in the workforce.  Just like alcohol, the majority of marijuana consumers do not abuse it and come to work high.  There are some industries that would even be less competitive if they really clamped down on marijuana smokers.  The music industry, artists, writers, salespeople, video game creators, etc. come to mind.

I once worked in a very high performance sales environment.  It was possible to make hundreds of thousand of dollars a year, but it was a very, very difficult sale.  The best producers were all marijuana smokers.  In fact I would say that the majority of the force had used some sort drug.  This company could not drug test their people, for fear of losing all their best people.

This Coulter woman is out of touch or intentionally lying for an agenda.  I think more and more people are realizing that the MSM is nothing more than a battering ram for the government's agendas.  And it is not working anymore. 

Couldturkey

Thanx @giordano for that nifty term Sadomoralism, I shall use it somewhere!

Coulter appeared on some show, maybe Hannity, and before being asked anything, immediately launched into a diatribe against "smoking restrictions" (i.e. re hot burning overdose $igarette smoking of course).  Research needed: inhowfar does "her obvious support for the tobacco industry" actually derive from support FROM the tobacco industry?  (As in 2008 election, when "Crack Down on Pot" Giuliani got most tobacco money of all Presidential candidates)?

I like her hair, but the head bobbing up and down got sort of disconcerting-- does that affect the brain?

what the hell is it ??

what the hell is it ?? a hermaphrodite ?? a transvestite ?? i am a man, and 'Ann Coulter' has a bigger ADAM'S APPLE than me.

You're no man

You're a jerk off.

Social Security is a Ponzi

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. The money was spent as soon as it was put in the account.

Coulter is saying it's ok to kill people in their homes as long as she is paying taxes. What an ivy league  moron.

Who...

Who in their right mind ever decided that this stupid wench's moronic and insane opinion is worth wasting big bucks on television air time? Rather than ban drugs, we need to ban morons like Ann Coulter. She's such a close-minded, prejudiced, hag. The world would be better off if she kept her stupid mouth shut.

Conservatives for decriminalization

That was an interesting debate. I am a conservative who has thought long and hard about drug policy in American and I essentially agree with Stossel that our drug policy has been disastrous. I am still trying to develop my own thoughts about this, but I am leaning toward decriminalization. Maybe having the government control the sell of drugs, like Canada's and Sweden's governments control the sell of alcohol could be an appealing idea to all sides.

check out LEAP; law

check out LEAP; law enforcement against prohibition.

Addiction is a brain disease not a criminal offence

We at Choopers Guide are excited by the advances in neurobiology  
and the potential that this new knowledge and technology promises
in diagnosing and treating addiction disorders. Our vision is that as
science continues to provide empirical data documenting addiction
as a "brain disorder", addiction will cease to be viewed as volitional
moral misconduct, the stigma associated with addiction will recede
and persons afflicted with this disorder will be diagnosed, treated
and be reintegrated into society.  The social and economic
implications are staggering.
In the year 2020, we will look back in horror and shame at our social
misconduct and ignorance. Society will realize that our treatment of
these individuals has been comparable to prior periods in history
(Salem Witch Trials, Holocaust) when ideology and ignorance
dictated social policy and treatment of specific populations.

Addiction is a brain disease not a criminal offence

We at Choopers Guide are excited by the advances in neurobiology  
and the potential that this new knowledge and technology promises
in diagnosing and treating addiction disorders. Our vision is that as
science continues to provide empirical data documenting addiction
as a "brain disorder", addiction will cease to be viewed as volitional
moral misconduct, the stigma associated with addiction will recede
and persons afflicted with this disorder will be diagnosed, treated
and be reintegrated into society.  The social and economic
implications are staggering.
In the year 2020, we will look back in horror and shame at our social
misconduct and ignorance. Society will realize that our treatment of
these individuals has been comparable to prior periods in history
(Salem Witch Trials, Holocaust) when ideology and ignorance
dictated social policy and treatment of specific populations.

----Coulter a NO SHOW

Coulter has persistently baulked the core issues of the moment

--i.e. the illegal, corrupt and treasonous private Federal Reserve

and its fake fiat currency and power gradding debt creation ---and the century long problem of eugenics

hiding within ALLLL our major ultra-rich, tax free 'charitable'  Freemasonic

capstone foundations ---and their globalist handover to the awesomely

genocidal RED Chinese.

 

Coulter hasn't said a word------

----Coulter a NO SHOW

Coulter has persistently baulked the core issues of the moment

--i.e. the illegal, corrupt and treasonous private Federal Reserve

and its fake fiat currency and power gradding debt creation ---and the century long problem of eugenics

hiding within ALLLL our major ultra-rich, tax free 'charitable'  Freemasonic

capstone foundations ---and their globalist handover to the awesomely

genocidal RED Chinese.

 

Coulter hasn't said a word------

Coulter / Stossel debate

I find it sad that people who disagree with Ms Coulter feel the need to lash out with hateful comments. This seems to be a pattern with the left. Though I disagree with Ms Coulter on her ideas about our drug policies, I find some of what she has to say about other subjects to be true. Those on the left that wish to silence her, by making hateful comments, minimize their position by not engaging her with a healthy debate over different ideas. Something that she does not shy away from is a good debate.

Having said that, our war on drugs has been a total failure. 70% or more of inmates incarcerated in this country are serving sentences for non-violent drug crimes. This costs us a fortune. As a recovering drug addict, with a good bit of clean time under my belt, I find our drug policies counter productive. The DEA, like any other government program, is about jobs and unlikely to be shut down. You'l have better luck shutting down NPR than the DEA.

30 plus years ago, while visiting the Golden Triangle area of Thailand and a tribe called the Hmong, I asked one of the younger members of the Opium growing tribe, why are none of the people addicted to opium since it's so plentiful. The young man told me that it is only for the sick and the very old. He had been educated to understand the power of opium and knew of it's destructive powers and it's medicinal properties. By outlawing it, you make it a taboo that tempts our youth. The young will always want to experiment with things that are a forbidden fruit.

This is where my liberal friends get confused. They vote for people that continue to grow government and create more and more laws and regulations that infringe on our freedoms. They think, while believing in Darwin's theory and the survival of the fittest, that they or their government can make the world fair then they expect them to regulate some things and not others. You can't have it both ways.

I like Ann Coulter. I have never heard her say anything nearly as hateful about anyone as some of these far leftwingers like Kieth Oberman or Bill Mahr have said about her. But I am with Stossel on this one. The drug war was lost before it even started. Think of the lives and and the money that have been lost.

How can she possibly say we

How can she possibly say we cannot discuss this while in a welfare state. How many people that are locked up for drug related offenses are productive members of society? So if I get this right. She would rather have someone sitting in jail using up tax dollars than have them in society possibly earning there own way? I am not saying that some people don't take advantage of the welfare system but can that really be put on drug offenders alone?

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