California Governor Signs Marijuana Decriminalization Bill
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) Thursday signed into law a bill that decriminalizes the possession of up to one ounce of marijuana. The bill reduces simple possession from a misdemeanor to an infraction.
[image:1 align:left caption:true]Currently, small-time pot possession is "semi-decriminalized" in California. There is no possible jail sentence and a maximum $100 fine. But because possession is a misdemeanor, people caught with pot are "arrested," even if that means only they are served a notice to appear, and they must appear before a court.
That has happened to more than a half million Californians in the last decade, and more than 60,000 last year alone. Every one of them required a court appearance, complete with judge and prosecutor. That costs the cash-strapped state money it desperately needs.
Under the bill signed today, SB 1449, by Sen. Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), marijuana possession will be treated like a traffic ticket. The fine will remain at $100, and there will be no arrest record.
In a signing statement, Schwarzenegger said he opposed decriminalization for personal use -- and threw in a gratuitous jab at Proposition 19, the tax and regulate marijuana legalization initiative -- but that the state couldn't afford the status quo.
"I am signing this measure because possession of less than an ounce of marijuana is an infraction in everything but name," said Schwarzenegger. "The only difference is that because it is a misdemeanor, a criminal defendant is entitled to a jury trial and a defense attorney. In this time of drastic budget cuts, prosecutors, defense attorneys, law enforcement, and the courts cannot afford to expend limited resources prosecuting a crime that carries the same punishment as a traffic ticket."
"Gov. Schwarzenegger deserves credit for sparing the state's taxpayers the cost of prosecuting minor pot offenders," said California NORML director Dale Gieringer. "Californians increasingly recognize that the war on marijuana is a waste of law enforcement resources."
The law goes into effect January 1. Even if Prop 19 passes in November, it leaves in place misdemeanor charges for smoking in public or in the presence of minors. Those misdemeanors would become infractions under the new law.
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In reply to Why would you not smoke? by Weeder (not verified)
Maybe not to lose your
Maybe not to lose your career? State, Federal, Employers has to be on the same page. Its a false sense of freedom even for a medical patient enrolled in the california health dept . If the medical patients are not protected now under 215. Do you think recreational users will be protected under 19? Hey vote for this . But oh btw you cant work at any job that has a drug test screen or random testing (which i think is a large percent). If you do you risk losing your job.
Again seems an abuse of power and mixed message to the average citizen trying to understand his rights.
So even if this passes its knowing going in.. you are going to be discriminated upon by employers as they do not recognize it. The supreme court has given employers in california that right (as read on americans for safe access). We need to overturn that or reform that area.
In reply to Maybe not to lose your by Eargoggles (not verified)
what about alcohol....pharmaceuticals....etc...
are you for making those illegal?
In reply to what about alcohol....pharmaceuticals....etc... by jamest (not verified)
IÂ am for ending prohibition
I am for ending prohibition on this plant 100% to include agricultural use,textiles and paper etc. No man or government should have this power over another man. The history of the plant is tainted with misinformation and what i feel is foul play.
Its an abuse of power period. And the misinformation continues to be perpetuated and is embedded in many areas federal,law enforcement,labor laws etc. Its suggesting the powers at be or another citizen knows my body better than me and that is insanity. That crosses a line with me.
I do not think intention of ending prohibition on alcohol was not meant to cater to people drunk driving, and abusing. And the same is the case for ending cannabis prohibition.
Should we ban alcohol and your pain killers or sleeping pills since many have abused them and even killed? how about cigarettes. No your given the right to these substances if used responsibly and in cases of prescriptions as prescribed.
In reply to what about alcohol....pharmaceuticals....etc... by jamest (not verified)
I agree
Alcohol and prescriptions pill addictions cost us more in taxes for state drug programs and prisoner housing. Not to mention alcohol related DUI percentage; you hear about drunk drivers killing people, right? The overall effect of alcohol on the human body and mind compared to marijuana in much more devastating. And not only does it destroy the human body and mind but the loved ones of alcoholic/prescription pill abusers are greatly effected as well. Trust.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
Don't assume that everyone
Don't assume that everyone that is against prop 19 is a right wing conservative, because I am as right as you can get and I am for legalization.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
Stupid is as Stupid does
What party runs the CA gov't, or the federal gov't? If right wing nazis (which I presume means republicans to you) are the ones preventing you from legally toking, how is that it was republican George Schultz in the Regan admin who was the first high ranking member of either party to say publicly (early 1990's) that Americans needed to rethink the war on marijuana?
And how well have the "progressive" regressive types done? Last I checked, the leaders of the democratic party favor limiting criminal penalties, but NOT legalization - same as most republicans.
In reply to Stupid is as Stupid does by deadwood (not verified)
Jimmy Carter
Jimmy Cartery explored legalization in 1975 during his Presidential run, so George Schultz was only about 15-20 years behind.
In reply to Stupid is as Stupid does by deadwood (not verified)
Look At The Polls, Look At The Votes
I appreciate and really respect the right-wingers who see the freedom and liberty argument. I only wish there were more.
Unfortunately, you see polls all the time that show mid-thirties support from Republicans, round sixty from Democrats. In legislative votes, it's always majority 'no' from Republicans, a (tepid at best) 'yes' from the Democrats.
If the right were behind reform, it would have happened by now.
Absent the culture war, I would think that they would be.
Absent the culture war, it's odd that they're not.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
Right-wingers support this too
This isn't so much a left-right issue. There are millions of conservatives that support Prop 19 across the nation. Count me as one of them. And no, just because I am conservative doesn't make me a fascist or a nazi. Quite the opposite in fact, because I want the govt to have less influence in people's lives and for citizens to be responsible for themselves. The Governator's decriminalization combined with passage of Prop 19 accomplishes that.
In reply to Right-wingers support this too by Conserva-smoker (not verified)
 Agreed, you're not alone.
Agreed, you're not alone.
In reply to  Agreed, you're not alone. by aldo (not verified)
I Second That
I am a conservative. I want as little government intervention as possible. I may not smoke pot, but I support its legalization and taxation, just like alcohol.
Let's keep our pot dollars in America. We have had enough of our economy outsourced; we might as well reclaim the pot economy for America.
In reply to Right-wingers support this too by Conserva-smoker (not verified)
Left-Winger Says "Thanks."
Thanks.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
Gee... your name is "Smarter
Gee... your name is "Smarter than you" , you support more taxes, and use the word "progress". You are certainly quite the statist. "Progress" to you is destroying the constitution and turning this into a European style nation. Instead of working so hard to destroy the country why dont you take your liberal *#* straight to Europe where you belong.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
pot
I think the economics goes something like at the low end people purchase pot instead of x product placing burdens on lower income households high end folks never purchase in enough quantity for it to make significant as a cash crop yielding no net tax benefit aside from no prosecution and incarceration. The down side is far greater and the burden of such a bad choice is placed squarely on the low end consumer. Drug use should be stigmatized at all costs and avoided with the greatest effort. Drugs are a losing proposition anyway you look at them.
In reply to pot by shakes (not verified)
that could be said for any
that could be said for any recreational activity you dont personally approve of. In Colorado the government is already counting its tax cash, and its not an insignificant amount as you claim it would be in California.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
RIGHT WING?
I'm sorry I didn't realize this was a political commentary about right and left wing policies. I'm about as right wing as they get and I fully support the legalization of marijuana. So why don't you save the name calling for another time. I don't understand what the initial poster is talking about as the passage will reduce the overhead of the state in chasing nonsense and at the same time generate incredible amount of income. However the name calling is not necessary.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
i am tired of listening to
i am tired of listening to people talk about how much money in taxes it will bring in just to try and fool people in to voting yes. the gov will waiste it to.
In reply to You are stupid. There will be by Smarter than you (not verified)
POT
It looks like California has sealed it's doom. With the passage of that law and if Prop. 19 passes, then California citizens can expect to see their personal taxes skyrocket for medical care, more illegal aliens, a large increase in violence, more broken homes and plenty of heartbreak. Sure glad I don't live in that screwed up state.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
This will save the goverment money.
In reply to This will save the goverment money. by Anonymous Cali… (not verified)
This won't save one stinking
This won't save one stinking dime. Less prosecutions means nothing. Does this mean all lawyers will be leaving the office early since they have no cases to prosecute/defend? No. Will the judge leave early because there are no cases in front of him? No. Will the cops take more time off since they won't be stopping you for possession? No. Will the administrators be leaving early because they don't have to fill out the paperwork? No. Show me where the savings are?
In reply to This won't save one stinking by Chappy (not verified)
Less prosecutions means
Less prosecutions means nothing. Does this mean all lawyers will be leaving the office early since they have no cases to prosecute/defend?
No. They will use there time to take on more meaningful cases, like real crimes and murders. Our law enforcement/judicial system is hugely backlogged because of all of the pointless stuff that they have to deal with (like marijuana cases)
Will the judge leave early because there are no cases in front of him?
No, see above.
Will the cops take more time off since they won't be stopping you for possession?
No, see above.
Will the administrators be leaving early because they don't have to fill out the paperwork?
No, see above.
Show me where the savings are?
Done.
In reply to This won't save one stinking by Chappy (not verified)
Savings in decriminalization
In reply to This won't save one stinking by Chappy (not verified)
Freedom and Liberty
That's where the savings will be - in freedom and liberty.
Oh, and also in lives. Big savings there!
In reply to This won't save one stinking by Chappy (not verified)
""This won't save one
""This won't save one stinking dime. Less prosecutions means nothing. Does this mean all lawyers will be leaving the office early since they have no cases to prosecute/defend? No. Will the judge leave early because there are no cases in front of him? No. Will the cops take more time off since they won't be stopping you for possession? No. Will the administrators be leaving early because they don't have to fill out the paperwork? No. Show me where the savings are?""
Does that mean you shouldn't even bother doing anything about the overspending then?
Your argument is completely invalid.
As with everything, unraveling a large problem takes one step at a time. The point is that now when users are caught, $100 goes straight to the state budget. So not only do you get one step (of many) closer to the goal of eliminating debts, but the state actually earns money on it now.
I'm from Canada and I understand that for goodness sake.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
UH...? Stop and Think.
Extra expense? How does making something legal cost more money??? If you took away what tax revenue will be generated by legalization, the state will still save BILLIONS by NOT enforcing current laws alone. Sounds like yet another "Drugs are Bad, Um..K", uneducated statement. Only reason MJ is bad, is because someone told you as a kid that it is.
In reply to UH...? Stop and Think. by WHAAA??? (not verified)
Idiot
Hey genius......guess what.... pot is bad for you. Nothing good at all comes from legalizing this. You are an idiot.
In reply to Idiot by Robert Abramson (not verified)
Congrats
Congrats on being the most ignorant person in the world. Ive smoked cannabis for about 6 years now and nothing bad has happened except me having to spend money on court fees for being arrested for 5 dollars worth of weed.
In reply to Congrats by Riley Slater (not verified)
Bad Grammor
Congratulations for congratulating someone for being ignorant. Also congratulations for getting caught with 5 dollars worth of weed and congratulations for making it six whole years...oh and congratulations making over $60,000 a year.
In reply to Bad Grammor by A. Muller (not verified)
Congratulations for
Congratulations for congratulating someone for congratulating another for being ignorant.
In reply to Idiot by Robert Abramson (not verified)
profound statement
In reply to Idiot by Robert Abramson (not verified)
Good comes from legalizing...
You should learn not to believe everything your mother tells you. You believe pot is bad just like you believe God is real: your mother told you and you believed her. Shame on you.
In reply to UH...? Stop and Think. by WHAAA??? (not verified)
Regulation + Continued Law Enforcement + Gov't Programs=($$$)
Regulation costs money. Law enforcement would have to restructure and prevent a potential increase in the illegal drug trade. Government programs such as those aimed at clean needle distributions, addiction centers, etc will need funding. The research supports that the need for these will increase. I'm all for Prop 19 getting passed, believe me. But it will not result in cash barrelling in allowing us to pay our teachers or fund this and that. The economics suggest that the revenue will just outweigh the costs. Vote yes, but know what you're gonna get.
In reply to Regulation + Continued Law Enforcement + Gov't Programs=($$$) by Beware..Begin (not verified)
Mj should be legal but if you
Mj should be legal but if you think that will help the government to save money, you are naive. Government will always find a way to need more than the budget that they have. They are especially not giving up cops or prisons. These equal big money and control/power.
In reply to Regulation + Continued Law Enforcement + Gov't Programs=($$$) by Beware..Begin (not verified)
LMAO, really?
I've NEVER seen or heard of ANYONE using a needle to use Pot, LOL. It is the fact that you currently HAVE to get it from a "Criminal" that "makes it more likely that you will use harder drugs" like they try to spew at us. And I will have to say that the VAST majority of Hard Drug Dealers LOVE that they still get to sell all the Pot too. It means that they have the Opportunity to sell their Customers on Harder Drugs. If you take away their Customer Base, which Full Legalization will do very effectively, they DON'T HAVE THAT CHANCE ANY MORE! Actual Hard Drug Use will quite possibly DROP if given enough time.
Average Breakdown of $50/Eighth (Utah, Current, Ideal):
$10-Dealer
$5-Driver
$15-Grower (Mexico)
$20-"Management" (Mexico)
And the Stats on Schwag aren't much better. Who do you think that "Management" is? Well, it could be Taxes, but only if we legalize it!
Let's put this money back in the States at least!
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
UH...? Stop and Think.
Extra expense? How does making something legal cost more money??? If you took away what tax revenue will be generated by legalization, the state will still save BILLIONS by NOT enforcing current laws alone. Sounds like yet another "Drugs are Bad, Um..K", uneducated statement. Only reason MJ is bad, is because someone told you as a kid that it is.
In reply to UH...? Stop and Think. by WHAAA??? (not verified)
It aint called dope for nothing
I just wanted to point, out that you have, an unnecessary comma, in your last sentence.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
Read the Sample Ballot
It's all right there in your sample ballot. Potential to generate hundreds of millions in tax revenue, potential to reduce enforcement costs by tens of millions. Learn to seek out facts and think critically.
In reply to Read the Sample Ballot by Le Sigh (not verified)
The State could make millions
In reply to The State could make millions by Use your brain (not verified)
Whoring?
And if they were willing to whore themselves out? It works perfectly well in Nevada, as well as numerous other nations in the world. Just because you wouldn't like something doesn't mean no one would like it. I've met girls in the cat-houses that love their jobs. They get to set their own hours, charge their own prices, they can insist on protection, and they get to do a job they enjoy. All this on top of knowing that the government will be there to protect them if something happens, not arrest them and make their life even worse.
Your capitalization of the word "whore" seems to be an attempt to generate a negative emotional response, the same response you most likely get to the concept of "whoring". However, if my daughter, sister, or mother, being over 18 at the time, decides that moving to Nevada to work in the cat-houses (or anywhere else where it is legal) is what she wants, then I will support her whole-heartedly, just as I would if she wanted to be a veterinarian, musician, scientist, or any other profession.
In reply to The State could make millions by Use your brain (not verified)
So you're comparing some
So you're comparing some stoners to child prostitution? Please stop voting. lol moron
In reply to The State could make millions by Use your brain (not verified)
The couple of legal brothels
The couple of legal brothels in Nevada may be morally wanting, but they work. There are no rapes, almost no transmitted STDs, no pimp / whore violence, virtually none of the sh*t we encounter on the black market and in most every major city in America. The difference is legality and regulation.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
A reply to your comment
The State is already burdened with the expense of enforcing the law of keeping it illegal and dealing with the violence related to the illegal trafficking. Making it legal would generate more than a billion dollars a year in state sales tax and completely eliminate the demand for illegal marijuana cartels. "I think it's a golden opportunity for California voters to strike a real blow against the (Mexican) drug cartels and drug gangs," said Joseph McNamara, who served as San Jose's police chief for about 15 years. The state Board of Equalization last year said a marijuana legalization measure proposed in the state legislature could have brought California up to $1.4 billion in tax revenue. Before you vote no, why don't you research the facts instead of following your intuition. It's patriotic to be an informed citizen, it's not so patriotic to be an opinionated citizen with no factual information to support your claims. Why not pay our teachers with money from the legalization of marijuana. A
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
Me too...
Prop 19 is a step too far...it will just create more conflict, as opponents maneuver to repeal it in both State and Federal court, as well as hamstring it at the local levels.
I think Schwarzenegger struck the right balance, with this one...this change represents a sensible evolution, in our policy. The dual-policy of decriminalization and medical use sends a responsible message about marijuana use.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
Woah woah hold on there doublespeak...
"Why burden the State with the extra expense of enforcing a new law"???
WTF it's basically REPEALING laws that are wasteful.
Why waste resources destroying hundreds of thousands of peaceful peoples lives that have done nothing to harm you or anyone else because they posses a particular plant?
How does a law that essentially says "stop wasting time on these people" equate to MORE effort. It would save billions of dollars and thousands of lives wouldn't be ruined.
Don't fall for the doublespeak.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
Are you serious?
Any expenses will be far exceeded by the increased tax revenues made off of this herb. I'd say you have it 100% backwards. This will be a boon for the State's ailing coffers!
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
Is it that You just don't get it?
Legal pot will bring tourist back,take away a lot of waisted police time and could bring as much as 12 billion in tax revenue and in direct and indirect service businesses. Did you know that it is suspected that the liquor industry helped write the criminal laws during prohibition to stop the free flow of pot because it could not be taxed with the then out dated technology. Time for us all to look at the real reason pot is illegal? Is anyone even looking for that other than me?
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
I agree
I support decriminalization and I don't think prop 19 is in the best interest of the majority of users read more here http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-pro-pot-activists-oppose-2010-tax.html
In reply to I agree by freecat (not verified)
freecat is completely wrong
See http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy/2010/oct/10/stoners_against_prop_19_debunked for why freecat is so completely wrong about Prop 1.
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
prop 19
you dork, it Wont cost more at all, Cali. will Gain Money that it Ever So Desperatly needs!
In reply to I'm Voting "No" on Proposition 19 by Rocco411 (not verified)
yes
no if it was made legal and regulated it would make an estimated 1,000,000,000 dollers in taxes for the state to us ass they please it will pay it self off in one year
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