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A man wanted on drug and other arrest warrants who barricaded himself inside a West Haven auto body shop was shot and killed Wednesday afternoon when he allegedly pointed a weapon at SWAT officers after a standoff lasting several hours. Kristopher Chase Simmons, 35, becomes the 21st person to die in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.
What later happened to the woman is unclear (see below).
SWAT officers were called to the scene and hours of negotiations ensued, but when negotiations proved fruitless, SWAT officers entered the building.
"Simmons pointed a gun at the officers and two of them returned fire, wounding Simmons," Sgt. Lane Findlay of the Weber County Sheriff's Office wrote in a press statement Wednesday night.
But one commenter on a Standard-Examiner story about the incident and Simmons' criminal history had a decidedly different take on what went down:
"My friend is the 'mystery girl' the cops speak of that they could not locate or didn't know if she was real. She was real and she was inside hiding during the stand off and saw everything," wrote the commenter, who identified herself as Mona Little. "SIMMONS DID NOT HAVE A GUN. SIMMONS HAD BARRICADED HIMSELF INSIDE A CAR IN THE SHOP AND HAD A BLANKET OVER HIM. THE COPS SHOT HIM POINT BLANK IN THE CHEST AS HE WAS BEGGING THEM NOT TO! AFTER HE WAS MURDERED THE POLICE SET UP THE STAGE WITH 11 REHEARSALS, REFUSING TO LET THE CSI IN UNTILL THEY PRACTICED WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO CLAIM HAPPENED AND GOT ALL THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW, EVEN RE-ARRANGING THE CRIME SCENE TO WORK IN THEIR FAVOR!!! THIS IS MURDER BUT WHO WILL POLICE THE POLICE? THIS IS THE TRUTH."
Sgt. Findlay told the Standard-Examiner yesterday that a detective had indeed seen a woman, who police believed was an associate of Simmons, make her way into the building while others were being evacuated, but that there had been no sign of her since.
"It's not certain where she went," he said. "She could possibly have slipped out."
Police don't know who she is and she could be difficult to identify, he said. "I know there are detectives working on it."
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S.W.A.T. S.U.C.K.S.
S.W.A.T. S.U.C.K.S.
We don't need S.W.A.T.
Lets get rid of these enemies of Americans.
Not normally an advocate of violence
But let's take the "eye for an eye" advocate's standpoint for a minute here:
Go after all 13 police officers, hunt them down, and kill every last one of them. Put a reward online, and let the chips fall where they may.
Who cares if it's murder? They did it, they deserve it returned to them. There are plenty of gun-owning people in Utah who will likely read this and say "Sure, why not? Makes sense."
Yeah, it sucks, but everyone's had enough. There's no shame in killing someone who is responsible for murder. When the police do it, death is the only acceptable punishment.
Not a great solution, but it's a damn effective one, one that will send a clear message. Might not accomplish anything positive, but it'll solve the problem and that'll be one less SWAT team of stupid officers on the public payroll.
Not normally an advocate of violence
But let's take the "eye for an eye" advocate's standpoint for a minute here:
Go after all 13 police officers, hunt them down, and kill every last one of them. Put a reward online, and let the chips fall where they may.
Who cares if it's murder? They did it, they deserve it returned to them. There are plenty of gun-owning people in Utah who will likely read this and say "Sure, why not? Makes sense."
Yeah, it sucks, but everyone's had enough. There's no shame in killing someone who is responsible for murder. When the police do it, death is the only acceptable punishment.
Not a great solution, but it's a damn effective one, one that will send a clear message. Might not accomplish anything positive, but it'll solve the problem and that'll be one less SWAT team of stupid officers on the public payroll.
Not normally an advocate of this sort of thing
But let's take the "eye for an eye" advocate's standpoint for a minute here:
Go after all 13 police officers, hunt them down, and eliminate every last one of them. Put a reward online, and let the chips fall where they may.
Who cares if it's murder? They did it, they deserve it returned to them. There are plenty of gun-owning people in Utah who will likely read this and say "Sure, why not? Makes sense."
Yeah, it sucks, but everyone's had enough. There's no shame in killing someone who is responsible for murder. When the police do it, death is the only acceptable punishment. Sure, two wrongs don't make a right, but their actions are wholly and totally unacceptable.
Not a great solution, but it's an effective one, one that will send a clear message. Might not accomplish anything positive, but it'll solve the problem and that'll be one less SWAT team of stupid officers on the public payroll.
Dear detective on this case .
Dear detective on this case . Your a murderer and are worse than he ever could have been . The truth will come out. As to the 3 officers who shot him, I hope your haunted everyday by this. justice will prevail! The rest of you that stood around and watched this shame on you for not standing up for whats right. What if this was your son? All because he was a better driver than ogden city cops. Ask yourself was your pride worth it? Stand up for whats right dont bow down to that lame ring leader!
I have recently begun work on
I have recently begun work on a doc. of this event as well as the murders of Chad peterson killed in box elder Danielle willard, Mathew david stewart. there is a struggle to overthrow the corruption in our law enforcement community and together we can and will bring justice to the family of the murdered. a badge is not a license to kill and should not be a protection catalyst for a guilty party. any and all information regarding this case would be a great help to bring the truth to light.
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