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Will Obama End the Medical Marijuana Raids?

When Barack Obama enters the White House in January, will he make good on his promise to end federal interference with state medical marijuana laws? Reformers have not easily forgotten the broken promise of George Bush, who spoke of "state's rights" regarding medical marijuana on the campaign trail only to subsequently declare war on patients and providers in states that protect medical use.

While the terms of engagement between DEA and the medical marijuana community under an Obama administration won’t be fleshed out for many months, I’d like to remind everyone what exactly we’ve been told to expect. This is the Obama campaign’s response to emails about medical marijuana:

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting Obama for America to inquire about the Senator's position on allowing severely ill patients to use marijuana for medical purposes.

Many states have laws that condone medical marijuana, but the Bush Administration is using federal drug enforcement agents to raid these facilities and arrest seriously ill people.  Focusing scarce law enforcement resources on these patients who pose no threat while many violent and highly dangerous drug traffickers are at large makes no sense.  Senator Obama will not continue the Bush policy when he is president.

Thank you again for contacting us.

Sincerely,

Obama for America

As I've argued previously, it's really quite silly to argue that arresting patients is a "poor use of resources" as though we'd persecute the sick if only we could afford to. The hysteria about "many violent and highly dangerous drug traffickers" is also utterly irrelevant and distracting, a frivolous pander to law & order types who may or may not require constant reassurance that Obama doesn't plan to end enforcement of all criminal laws on day 1.

And yet, despite the almost complete incoherence of Obama's position on medical marijuana, it somehow arrives at the conclusion that we must stop arresting medical marijuana patients and providers. Is there any ambiguity about that? If nothing else, the above statement insists convincingly that Obama has every intention of promptly discontinuing one of the worst excesses of the modern war on drugs. If this happens, it will be the functional equivalent of the chronically doomed Hinchey Amendment, and one could scarcely overstate the significance of such an event.

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Obama on med pot

This is from November of last year:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/25/479649.aspx

"My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana then that's something I'm open to because there's no difference between that and morphine when it comes to just giving people relief from pain,” Obama said. “But I want to do it under strict guidelines. I want it prescribed in the same way that other painkillers or palliative drugs are prescribed.”

Morphine, of course, is Schedule 2, which means the doctors have to file each prescription with the DEA, who are on the lookout for doctors that prescribe "too much." This is considerably more restrictive than, for example, the med pot regime they have in California.

So, reading between the lines a little bit, it would seem that the president-elect wants to move marijuana from Sched 1 (no medical use) to Sched 2 (yes, medical use, but really, really closely watched, and only if you really, really, need it). Schedule 2 means the doc has to file each prescription with the DEA. If this happens, what happens to the marijuana dispensaries in California?

Well, one answer is that they would have to close their doors, because there is no longer a justification for them. Those people who really need the pot can go through the "strict guidelines" and get it the precise measured doses that they need rather than the free-for-all you have in California. The new Michigan initiative, which as I understand it would allow patients to grow their own, would seem to be out as well. All these local initiatives will be replaced by the Schedule 2.

All of this is consistent with the "Dear Friend" note you got from Obama for America, and I'd consider that a real possibility.

Since the Federal Food Drug and Cosmetic Act of 1938, the federal government has had the task of regulating prescription drugs. As it ought to; having a patchwork quilt, each state drawing up its own rules is very cumbersome for a matter as complicated as this.

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holy bible, the power over the plants and animals is required

it dosnt take a rocket scientist to figure out why they work so hard to keep weed criminal, they control the crave, as long as they can criminalize people for barring arms aginst their harms and get to play high roller anytime they want, fly around the world and all they need to do is rip off the american 20.00$ worth of weed then their trip is paid for, with the billions they can make off the war all the while being able to eliminate the undesirable or the berkley subversive then these cowards can hide in the back ground with their high tecnlogy destroying our freedom.

The govt can schedule marijuana any way they want....

....because if average Joe Stoner can't get his weed then he will be scheduling a visit to his neighborhood seller.

Anybody's Guess

I think as far as med pot is concerned, we don't really know what Obama will do. He has said some very positive things, then said some negatives. The mainstream is looking at economy, health care, jobs as priorities, not medical Marijuana. Therefore, not a whole lot of time is going to be devoted to the problem. I could see Obama ordering a stop to raids while they figure out the issue.

I'm thinking the best we can hope for out of Obama is the opening of a dialogue. That's not a bad thing, but we need to be stepping up the pace.

Votehemp.org graded Obama a B+ on industrial Hemp. On other aspects of the issue, most of the rest of us are praying he will at least listen to what we have to say.

Skywolf

realization

Hopefully obama will take the consideration of marijuana just being a plant. The people know the gifts and powers the cannabis plant provides. I think that the hype of the 60's is wat really crushed the positive outlook on wat the plant really is. The goverment puts alcohol, a substance which can kill a person by merely consuming too much on the market. It makes no sense to have a skillfully grown god made plant to be banned. And its ludacris to ban it since you really can't overdose on it. You can smoke so much of it and still feel fine. No harm done. Unlike the many prescriptions drugs out there like morphine,oxycontin,vicodine ect. Which can kill you by merely taking 3 times the dosage a patient should take.in my opinion I think the goverment lets alcohol to still be on the market cuz its socially accepted.Marijuana has to be one of the most natural gifts the world has provided us. Its medicinal,recreational, and a new hobby for many americans. You can compare marijuana to any plant since its so organic. It feeds on nutrients, its water based and it takes very careful technique and practice to grow a succesful plant. Marijuana is more healthier then the foods we ingest today. Many of which give us unhealthy consequences. The goverment let the 60's revolution get the best of them since marijuana back in those days was the big hype. If obama really cares about this nation he will stop arresting citizens for possesing the plant on them. Every time we arrest someone for something as stupid as the plant we waste many of the nations dollars. Plus the goverment sells us cancer sticks and those kill us. They should at least sell us something that will slow down the cancer if we get it "COUGH COUGH" like "MARIJUANA". The world knows how's safe the plant is with those anti smoking commercials. In all those commercials the kids are sitting on a couch stoned in front of a tv set being really quiet sounds pretty safe to me. Have the people at those anti organizations forgotten wat alcohol does? It makes people, beligerent,loud,aggresive and mentally challenged, and out of control under the influence. You cannot compare that to marijuana. A stoner would smoke some bud and flip the tv on with a bag of munchies by their side laugh a little and relax cuz there's nothing else to do.doesn't sound bad lol. Safe and recreational if you ask me. This is a new age of people. A time where racism is gone, a time where marijuana is being held up for all its benefits. I hope that obama will realize all this. And the time for change is now!

Safe and recreational

A time where racism is gone... ?!?! your smokeing to much sir ;)

Same Laws

Politicians do what the public demands. When we create enough demand amongst the general public to end the prohibition our politicians will jump on board, if only to save their own jobs.

We can do nothing without the support of nonsmokers. We need parents, community groups and civic leaders to realize that prohibition is a flawed policy and that it's illogical to believe that prohibition could be bad policy for alcohol but good policy for marijuana.

We need them to understand that "legalization" does not mean legalizing everything related to marijuana and that in simple terms it means to control marijuana with the *same laws* we use for alcohol.

As the VCL said in 1932, "when the weight of public opinion demands repeal of Prohibition, Prohibition will be repealed".
That was true seventy-five years ago and it's equally true today.

Not So Confident

"IF the Science suggests" is typically code for "IF the FDA reschedules marijuana," which may never happen because of the cost of FDA-drug trials and the fact that the FDA is quite prone to telling very big lies, when the appropriate political pressure is applied.

So, my guess is without significant pressure, Obama will take the easy way out: "The FDA does not believe marijuana has medicinal value."

Many cowardly politicians use the "If the Science is there" bullshit to stall and to cover both sides of the issue at once, because they don't understand that most of the public wants access to medical marijuana; and they don't understand the Science of Medical Marijuana.

Evidently, most politicians also don't have the moral compass to understand that stealing medicine from sick people and caging them is BARBARIC and has no place in a civilized society!

God Made Pot

Can we really as a country 11 trillion $$$$ in debt continue to afford to arrest over 800,000 people a year for pot?

Will the Police/Prison complex continue to pressure the pols to oppress the people over the green flowers of a God given plant?

Considering that Joe Biden wrote the Rave Act, the Paraphernalia Transport Act and has approved of government forfeiture laws, stricter enforcement for crack vs powder cocaine, etc. -- well I don't have very much hope for a real "Cannabis Freedom Act" in the U.S.A.'s future.

Only a constitutional "Cannabis Freedom Amendment" would make much difference, at least for the duration of this century.

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FDA Approval

At the very least, it sounds like he should at least allow the approval of Prof. Craker's application to grow marijuana for medical research.

Effects of alcohol......

This is an artical I found on alcohol.........

The journal Archives of Neurology reports that the more you drink and the longer you drink, the smaller your brain gets. The reduction is about 1.9 percent per decade. While that doesn't seem like much, think of someone drinking from age 21 to 51 and you're at about 6 percent shrinkage.

That reduction can precede forms of dementia in later years - after 60 or 70.

A drink or two each evening is associated with lower risk of cardiovascular disease. And drinking more than that can deflate your brain; researchers now wonder if that small amount will have a similar effect.

The researchers checked records between 1971 and 2001, much from the Framingham Offspring Study and Framingham Heart Study. They used magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to check on brain sizes and came up with their conclusions.

The study also showed that while men tend to drink more, women were more vulnerable to brain shrinkage over time.

Dig it

Bashing alcohol is'nt productive at all. Comparing the negative/positive affects may prove to be helpful though. We all know that you cant die from getting high, but what about the economic benefits of legalizing the ganja? Californias number one industry is agriculture, and marajuana is a big fraction of the resources that we grow from the soil. Think about how much the entire nation can benefit from such a successful industry, especially in a time of recession.

decriminalizing marijuana

If anyone would just do a little research on marijuana vs. alchohol and tabacco and the fed gov. would legalize it, we could pay off the national debt 5 times over in 3 years. Marijuana is not good just for smoking, you have to look at all of the other money making, prison reform and so many scientific alternatives that can come out of producing the plant. I can not believe the intelligence of the politicians and uninformed people in the USA, supposedly the land of freedom. You know the oil companies are totally against it, a natural way to produce oil, chemicals for plastics, paper, cloothing, I could go on for an hour. without hurting the earth. 75 years ago, it used to be against the law for the farmers not to grow it. Read the book, the king wears no clothes. You can find this book in the magazine "High Times" along with many others telling the real truth why the gov. dosen't want to legalize it. What ever shed. alchohol is rated at, marijuana should be one lower. What happened to real Change and Spread the wealth,my friend.

Nothing Changes

Too early for Obama to look at this as he has many other things to take care of before taking office.

They had prohibition for alcohol, there are laws against drugs, there are laws against drunk driving well there are still drunk drivers and and drugs.

So no matter what legislation passes it does not change the way the world and human nature works.

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I still feel like a criminal!

I can't shake it! I have a card. I paid $150.00 for that card. It helps a little having that card but I still feel like I can't tell anyone. I can't. If I do I get ripped off. Maybe someday I will feel like a "good" citizen.

The only way I will feel free is when it is legal for all.

Come on Obama, you should know how that feels!

Oh My God you burners are ridiculous

What a bunch of losers...legalize weed man is doens't hurt...maybe if you could face life's problems without chemicals you would wouldn't be where you are begging for legalization of a drug that kills all ambition in people....just don't count on my tax money providing for you when you are homeless and on the streets....you are the same bunch who think Obama's socialistic ideologies are American values.....

To the above poster: I'm for

To the above poster:

I'm for legalization or decriminalization. I guarantee you I'm not a loser. I guarantee you I'm twice as successful as you might ever be. You're making a big mistake generalizing that all people who enjoy marijuana are losers. I had several semesters in college where I smoked at least four or five times a day and made a 4.0. So by your logic I should be an unintelligent loser with no ambition. HA! How wrong you are. It's ignorant people like you that make ending this ridiculous war against cannabis so difficult to overcome. Do some research man, come on!

You are the ridiculous loser

You can't even spell, or compose a paragraph without screwing it all to hell.

I have smoked for forty years, and I am way ahead you.

Go drink a beer and watch football or NASCAR.

I am a medical patient that got busted for my legal grow!!!

I am a medical marajuana patient in Reno Nv. I suffer from a severe bone disorder, scoliosis, osteitus pubis etc... My house was raided on Aug 21st. 2008. My husband and myself were arrested. They held a gun to my head, They had the swat team, D.E.A. police and the bomb squad at my house ( FOR WEED) they took my youngest son from me. I am STILL fighting them and I am wondering, when Obama gets into office, will this help me AT ALL. because from what I'm hearing things might not change. I am trying to find out how I can get in touch with him now that he has become president. I voted for him because of his beliefs on medical marajuana laws and I realize he has ALOT of other issues that have priority over this but at this time this is the most important issue in my families lives. If you could tell me how I could e-mail him or his people please let me know. Thanks, Thadra

if a state votes yes, to medical pot then it should be yes!

when a state votes for medical marijuana, and approves its use for patients, then i think that the feds should stay out of it.

i dont think that it should just be available for anyone that wants to smoke pot, but many people find relief with it for severe pain issues.
THE DECISION SHOULD BE UP TO A DOCTOR!!! NOT A COP!
i dont like the feds saying what a state can vote in or out. california voted yes, it should be left alone by the feds. enough money is already wasted on putting people in jail for pot, enough money is wasted harassing people that have a doctors prescription for pot in california. Put that money to use in other areas, such as schools, health care, etc. i think that the federal government has enough on their plate without looking for things to get involved with. do something about illegal immigration!!! do something about the poor security at our ports! do something about abuse towards children, there are many issues that the feds can involve themselves in, beside harassing some old couple that grows a couple of plants in order to feel a bit better. i can only imagine the cost of a single raid, i bet we would all be surprised at the price that taxpayers pay to raid a couple's home, FEDS! STAY OUT OF CRAP YOU DONT NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN, GET INVOLVED IN CRAP THAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT!!!!

Smokers need to stop hiding

Smokers of pot need to stop being ashamed of their decision to get high.

Tell your family, tell your co-workers, tell the politicians that it is not just violent criminals, and disfunctional burdens on society that smoke pot. It is an American past time. It is my decision and yours. We work hard, we pay our taxes, we provide for our families and we should be able to reward ourselves with "that magic feeling"!

I am tired of having to go to some low life, pay him too much for some weed that has been treated with who knows what, when I could grow the stuff myself were I not in fear of being imprisoned and having my life destroyed.

It is time for change.

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migraine

I am a medical user. I have horrible migraines that keep me from working at least five days of every month. Prescription meds, (vicadin, Imitrex and Norqd) leave me feeling horrible for days after an attack. I black out from pain. With MMJ, I am able to function, go to work, sleep through the pain, and be happy.
Legalize it already, so than an honest, tax paying person like myself feels infinitely less criminal about seeking a natural alternative to horrible legal drugs.

Barack Obama

Considering the fact Barack Obama still has not produced a birth certificate, is it possible that when it is finally released (and shows that he is not a natual born citizen, which to me seems like the only reason to hide it) that he would not be aloud to be sworn into office?.by bingo paypal.....thanks in advance....

My Generation

remember the song?, my father who is still alive hated that song, because of his opinion, we all have one
he is a upstanding citizen and a mason, he had a DUI at 65 coming home from Elks lodge, he is in the same generation that will vote No on legalize weed, when that generation dies, he is 82, there will be no
more voting power, so we have to wait untill then and get some younger Supreme Court judges. we also need our new President who promised to stop the waste of money on weed laws to step up to the plate
and deliver, The weed prohibition was a racial and social law, drawn up by no statistics, to back its harm,
i cannot confirm or deny my use of medicinal weed

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Legalize Marijuana

Its frustrating to smoke that its a criminal. I have smoked marijuana for many years. It keeps me having these dull headaches and depression has been lifted. I can enjoy a good nights sleep. Obama Smoking cigaretttes can cause cause. Alcohol at excess can cause liver problems. Marijuana hasn't cause these problem and I'm able to function. It might bring more money into the ecomony.

What year is marijuana going to be legalized?

What year is marijuana going to be legalized? No doubt it is as we have medical marijauna and that's the first step to completely legalizing it. Plus, in Canada it's pretty much legal despite them keeping it illegal on the books to appease the U.S. You can walk into a coffe shop and buy pot in Canada. THey are our neighbor so it's only a matter of time till we legalize it. How long do you think til it's legal? I'm going to say by 2015....thanks by Asha

What are the medical marijuana raids?

What are the medical marijuana raids? I was looking at obama vs mccain issuses and they talked about these but I dont understand what they are....?thannks by ..homelover..!!!!

Marijuana

Marijuana was also known to the Assyrians, who discovered its psychoactive properties through the Aryans. Using it in some religious ceremonies, they called marijuana, qunubu (meaning "way to produce smoke"), a probable origin of the modern word. Marijuana was also introduced by the Aryans to the Scythians and Thracians/Dacians, whose shamans (the kapnobatai..those who walk on smoke/clouds.) burned marijuana flowers to induce a state of trance effect. Members of the cult of Dionysus, believed to have originated in Thrace, are also thought to have smoked marijuana. In 2003, a leather basket filled with marijuana leaf fragments and seeds was found next to a 2,500- to 2,800-year-old mummified shaman in the northwestern Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China.

How can I relieve a migraine without medicines?

How can I relieve a migraine without medicines?I get slight migraines when my body is under stress. Like when I'm working too hard, my sinuses are acting up, I'm worrying too much. What are things I can do to make my head feel better? It feels like there's a ring around my head and someone is pushing down on it. I took migraine medicine years ago, but I'm seeking new solutions....tanks girl..!!

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Has anyone out there been successful for more than 6 months with the stop smoking pill, Chantix...in Tennessee Limousine?I have just started taking Chantix and I am about a pack a day smoker give or take. I want to be successful with this for good. I have 5 children and a husband who smokes who has just began to take Chantix as well. My biggest concern is that we will be able to quit, but what happens after we stop taking Chantix? My husband quit for 5 years before! I am tired of feeling like a horrible mother, a social outcast and hiding my habit from people in my life. Not to mention sick and tired of the cost of smoking in itself. My husband agrees and feels the same. I just want to hear from someone out there they have been successful off of Chantix who started with Chantix. Anyone??????

Has anyone out there been successful for more than 6 months with

Has anyone out there been successful for more than 6 months with the stop smoking pill, Chantix? I have just started taking Chantix and I am about a pack a day smoker give or take. I want to be successful with this for good. I have 5 children and a husband who smokes who has just began to take Chantix as well. My biggest concern is that we will be able to quit, but what happens after we stop taking Chantix? My husband quit for 5 years before! I am tired of feeling like a horrible mother, a social outcast and hiding my habit from people in my life. Not to mention sick and tired of the cost of smoking in itself. My husband agrees and feels the same. I just want to hear from someone out there they have been successful off of Chantix who started with Chantix.....Thanks with lovable motor trade jobs sparks

I am sure, he will end the

I am sure, he will end the Medical Marijuana Raids,
You know there are many things too be looking into by him, he can move step by step, it is hard to move from first step to 10th step, We have to cross 2nd,3rd,4th.... steps to get into 10th step. I am sure, he will do it, Is it?
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Marijuana Addiction

Marijuana addiction is a phenomenon experienced by more than 150,000 individuals each year who enter treatment for their proclaimed addiction to marijuana. Marijuana addiction is characterized as compulsive, often uncontrollable marijuana craving, seeking, and use, even when the individual knows that marijuana use is not in his best interest. Marijuana addiction could be defined as chronically making the firm decision not to use marijuana followed shortly by a relapse due to experiencing overwhelming compulsive urges to use marijuana despite the firm decision not to. This contradiction is characteristic of an addiction problem.

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I don't think

I don't think so obama will do that. Obama still fighting with recession and get rid off this time. He just make speechs on national television and show lollypop to pakistan.
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stopped hanging around with anyone that smoked weed

I was like that too. I actually had to change my life completely. I stopped hanging around with anyone that smoked weed, and moved in with these two girls who were totally against drugs and didn't even know that I used to smoke. It was really hard for theh first 8 mo. But being around people who didn't do it made it soooo much easier, because I couldn't really talk to them about wanting to smoke and then end up doing it. (like I had in the past) Plus having two roommates pretty much insured that I would never be alone for long, so I didn't have so much time on my hands to worry about wanting to smoke, or "going crazy" if I couldn't. I'm not saying it was easy! But it was the best diecsion I've made so far in my life. I used to smoke everyday for about 7 years. Sounds like you might have anxiety disorder (i do) and feeling like your gonna "go crazy" or hurt yourself is one of the symptoms. So I would suggest you see a therapist. You don't have to tell them about the weed, but they can help you deal with your emotions (remember they were there b4 u started smoking!). Also if you get to the point where you KNOW you can't do this on your own. Then you should go to a rehab center. There's no shame in that! And don't worry what anyone mught think about it, because you know in your heart that you were doing the right thing to take care of yourself. AND that is most important! Screw Everyone Else!...thanks by...lovable Van contract hire..!!!

Mr. Holder said the new

Mr. Holder said the new approach was consistent with statements made by President Obama in the campaign and was based on an assessment of how to allocate scarce enforcement resources. He said dispensaries operating in accord with California law would not be a priority for the administration.
Mr. Holder said the department should be open to preserving a healthy newspaper industry. He said he would consider adjusting enforcement of antitrust statutes if that would help news organizations develop collective distribution systems.
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O-Mama

Definitely, he will be doing for our country. He is full of confident about to get rid of all crucial stage. As his letter for US citizen, i think he is sure which is better thing for citizen of US.

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Well, I do agree that

Well, I do agree that Marijuana is a medicine for some illness, but some people abuse it. Well, I guess to legalize marijuana for medical purpose is not bad. And I just wish too Prez Obama keep his promise. Resorts 360

I hope President Obama,

I hope President Obama, should not stop raiding the Marijuana dealers. People who does not need it medically abuse it. I do agree to legalize marijuana just for medical purposes. But popping it just like a cigarette is not really nice. Marijuana should only be bought from Medical institutions not from drug lords. microsoft office training

i dont like the feds saying

i dont like the feds saying what a state can vote in or out. california voted yes, it should be left alone by the feds. enough money is already wasted on putting people in jail for pot, enough money is wasted harassing people that have a doctors prescription for pot in california.VW vans

I don't think that Obama

I don't think that Obama will end medical marijuana raids. Because, there are lot of other important issues are infront of him...
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So now everybody knows what

So now everybody knows what Obama is been doing.....some of his plans are not in favor of common man and some are very good. I think everyone has bad and good things of his own so it good what he is doing because he is responsible leader and he is in a position where he has to take care of lot of matters.

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This is something which

This is something which needs to be attended at first I think. I am not much into political stuff but just letting my opinion out.

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why should Marijuana raids

why should Marijuana raids should be stop? The raids should be ongoing and remove Marijuana from the hand of people who don't need it medically and just abuse it. Marijuana should only be allowed for people who needs it medically. Cheers, Karl, sia badge

Medical marijuana raid should end

The government should allow the use of marijuana only for people suffering from serious illness involving acute pain as to better show sympathy towards such people instead of raiding and arresting them.

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I think so

Barack Obama has repeatedly promised to end these raids, but shortly after he took office, the DEA raided a California dispensary. On every other drug war question, including mandatory minimums and foreign policy with respect to opium and Afghanistan and cocaine in Latin America, I do not expect much from Obama, but there is an off chance he will end the raids.
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Obama is one of the best

Obama is one of the best presidents of USA. So i trust that he could do success in stopping alchohol or any other drugs. Drugs damage our health so we have to concious to avoid this.soap nuts

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