British Prime Minister Claims Marijuana Can Kill You
As British PM Gordon Browne prepares to ignore the recommendation of his own Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs and increase penalties for marijuana, he reveals once again how little he actually knows about the subject:
"I don't think that the previous studies took into account that so much of the cannabis on the streets is now of a lethal quality and we really have got to send out a message to young people -- this is not acceptable," Brown said. [Reuters]
Any way you look at it, this is just a total lie. The word "lethal" as defined by dictionary.com means the following:
–adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or causing death; deadly; fatal: a lethal weapon; a lethal dose.
2. made to cause death: a lethal chamber; a lethal attack.
3. causing great harm or destruction: The disclosures were lethal to his candidacy.
Even the 3rd definition, which may be the one Browne intends, is essentially figurative and is only used to describe non-living things, in this case a political campaign. The word is derived from the latin letalis, meaning death. It's just an incredibly poor adjective to describe a substance that has never killed anyone in human history. He says he wants to "send out a message to young people," but his message is just a big lie.
Thus, Browne is now expected to move forward with a plan to upgrade the criminal status of marijuana based on his own ignorant and wrong understanding of what the drug does, while disregarding the contrary advice of a whole council of experts who might actually know something about this.
This, my friends, is precisely how bad public policy gets made.
Public Relations Needed
Comment posted by ph0ed1n on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 7:36am"This, my friends, is precisely how bad public policy gets made."
And a very strong public reaction against that policy is how bad policy gets removed.
Are there not very wealthy people supporting the legalization movement?
If there are, I don't know where their millions of dollars supporting the legalization movement is being allocated, but based on the results, it's not into a professional public relations campaign to allow the movement to immediately debunk the Prime Minister's statement via the mainstream media.
A high-quality public relations firm has established regular connections to the mainstream media, allowing us to promptly, properly, concisely, and very publicly tear into the lies.
Argue Smartly
Comment posted by cmiers08 on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 3:05pmIt's funny that you reference the latin root of a word in an argument completely derived of logos. That means logic, by the way. While I agree that pot should be legal and, even better, decriminalized, you're grasping at straws, dude. Even here in America, I know what the fuck he's talking about. In one example, an entire population of campus smokers were sold pot with tiny glass balls in it, invisible to the naked eye, just to bulk it up. Dozens of people were either hospitalized, or coughed up blood for days.
In another example, pot was and IS being sold dusted with clear silicone to achieve the same result as above, a bulkier product of which you can sell less and make more. There have been, to date, 7 deaths related to that particular brilliant scam.
What I suggest you do, instead of poke around his words with your electronic dictionary grasping for an argument like you were flailing to grab soap dropped in the bathtub, is help him recognize that pot, like alcohol, when sold, taxed and regulated, is no more a gateway drug than it's legal partner in DUI crime. And it certainly would diminish the need to chemically fucking analyze you're everyday ditchwitch before you know it's safe to smoke it. Argue, but argue smartly. Why disagree with him that unregulated pot is forced to be sold from the hands of the same heartless dickholes that push coke, meth, crack, and all the other favorites, and if they will lace meth to stretch it like crack, they do the same with their pot.
Now, take a moment to apply your chosen point of argument, the word LETHAL, to the context in which he is actually speaking. Pot sold by heartless fucks who have chosen to bulk it up with deadly(and/or lethal, buddy) substances, is killing people. And those are not "non-living" things.
Labour Party Election Results Update
Comment posted by Giordano on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 5:41pmPrime Minister Gordon Brown’s Conservative Labour Party has been seriously hammered in Friday’s, May 2, 2008, elections.
BBC is reporting that the Conservative Labour Party will win 24% of the votes cast in England and Wales, falling behind the Tories who are expected to get 44%, and the Liberal Dems who it is expected will increase their share of the council seats from 13% to 25%. For Labour, it’s their worst defeat in 40-years.
The General Secretary of the party has announced his resignation, saying that Labour had lost touch with ordinary people and that Mr. Brown had lost his ability to lead.
If Brown expected his BS about killer skunk marijuana to help his party’s election results, he has seriously miscalculated. Good job, Brownie.
Giordano
Nobody died
Comment posted by Jimi Devine on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 2:44pmI remember the story but not anyone being killed from it, I think it was around 6 months ago.
Pandering
Comment posted by toconnor53 on Sun, 05/04/2008 - 11:29amMr. Brown’s statements are political pandering to his base of support among conservative voters.
Many conservatives are shocked by cultural changes that threaten their view of their country. Instead of tolerance for individual freedom, conservatives rally to someone that might treat their concerns as a crisis to which the state must respond. Conservatives are willing to use the coercive forces of the government to push their moral agenda on the general population.
Hopefully, the defeat in the elections will signal an acceptance of greater personal freedoms to the citizens of the UK. We in the USA should be so lucky.
Re: Brown
Comment posted by toconnor53 on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 1:17amThere are conservatives within all parties, including Labour.
Brown publicly committed Labour to following the Conservatives' spending plans for the first two years after taking power as the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Brown's ten years and two months as Chancellor of the Exchequer made him the longest-serving Chancellor in modern history, presiding over the longest ever period of growth. This does not qualify him as a socialist unless you are Conservative or somewhere to the right of the Labour Party. (A socialist seems to have a different political connotation in the USA than it does in Europe)
If mental health professionals are concerned about early cannabis use, legalizing cannabis use and imposing a system of regulations and taxation for the commercial marketing of cannabis to responsible adults might be a better alternative to reclassification. With regulation of a legal market there can be better control of access to the drug. I do not know any person who currently sells illegal drugs that checks identification to make sure that their customers are not a minor (under aged).
Reclassifying cannabis will not stop the proliferation of the more potent cannabis – that cat is already out of the bag.
By exchanging ideas and potential solutions we can learn from our collective mistakes. We know that prohibition does not work and no matter how many resources we pour into prohibition we only make organized crime richer and make otherwise responsible citizens into criminals.
WTF?
Comment posted by cmiers08 on Mon, 05/05/2008 - 4:27pm"Mental Health Problems"? Good God, man, do you type then think? What possible MHP could result from pot? Laziness? Guaranteed: A lazy potsmoker would just be a lazy human being without it. Pot, for the unmotivated, is an excuse. It's what they do in all the free time they have. Free time they have because they are just lazy. But don't go Reefer Madness on everybody. Noone's ever had to hide their daughter from a guy whacked out on POT.










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Prime Minister Gordon Brown—Asinine Avenger?
Comment posted by Giordano on Fri, 05/02/2008 - 3:47amMore from Reuters: “Brown said he was particularly worried about the growing use of skunk cannabis, which he described as "more lethal".
It would be fascinating to know how PM Gordon Brown acquires his ideas about marijuana. How does someone remain that insulated from reality? It can’t be from smoking anything—which would no doubt improve his reality radar.
Searching the web about the PM reveals that Mr. Brown, a minister’s son (Church of Scotland), was kicked in the head in a school rugby match with a force that resulted in detached retinas, later corrected in one eye by surgery. Child abuse and brain damage may explain Mr. Brown’s later misgivings about marijuana.
Brown, a Scotsman, obtained a PhD in History (not chemistry nor biology nor neurology) from the University of Edinburgh. His thesis subject was The Labour Party and Political Change in Scotland, 1918-1929.
Scotland…and Edinburgh no less. Think Train Spotting and Acid House and ponder why the Roman Emperor Hadrian built his wall….
With no other apparent job experience, Brown went directly from his alma mater into the British Labour Party, where he became the number-two-guy behind Britain’s former PM, Tony Blair. Mr. Blair, as you’ll recall, was popular when he brown-nosed for Bill Clinton, and unpopular when he brown-nosed for George W. Bush. Strange how situations change. Stranger still that Brown didn’t notice any change in American politics in the last few years. Again, an indication of brain damage.
Brown’s brown-nosing for the Neocon ONDCP/DEA agenda has potential consequences in 2009 when, if things go well, subpoenas, indictments and warrants rain from the sky onto Bush and his co-conspirators. Gordon Brown will end his career as a political fart.
Giordano