Ecstasy Laced With Meth is Bad, But it's Not My Fault
The Drug Czar is warning everyone about an epidemic of meth-laced ecstasy tablets coming into the country from Canada:
Alarmingly, more than 55 percent of the Ecstasy samples seized in the United States last year contained methamphetamine. Cutting their product with less-expensive methamphetamine boosts profits for Canadian Ecstasy producers, likely increases the addictive potential of their product, and effectively gives a dangerous “face lift” to a designer drug that had fallen out of fashion with young American drug users. [Pushing Back]
I'll tell you whose fault this isn't: mine. See, I don't think ecstasy should even be illegal. I don't want it to be manufactured by drug gangs in Canada, or anyone else who might lace it with methamphetamine or other noxious crap. I think it should be manufactured by licensed professionals and sold to adults through regulated outlets. Many people have been saying this for a long time to no avail and now look what's happened.
So if meth-laced ecstasy isn’t my fault, whose fault is it? Ironically, but rather obviously, it is the fault of the exact people who now complain about all the bad ecstasy rolling across our northern border.
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Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 01/09/2008 - 5:57pmThat's like saying trans-fat "is" omega-3 fatty acid. One is poisonous and one is beneficial even though their chemical compounds are nearly identical. "Methylene dioxy" are words describing the structure and composition of an organic molecule, not decoration. Are they different? Ecstacy is not physically addictive, the other one is. Look at side by side of photos of long-term meth users and long-term ecstacy users. The meth users will look like a leper colony.
And addictive referring to
Comment posted by mlang52 on Thu, 01/10/2008 - 3:10pmAnd addictive referring to what, Physical addiction and withdrawal? The ignorance in the community that wishes to argue the case, sometimes amuses me. Stimulants are not physically addictive, as far as I understand. But, the psychogical problem with severe cravings is definitely a big problem. The term of "addiction", used alone, is becoming very confusing, in today's society. Should we just lock up all "addicts" ? Problem is, we would have to lock up most of the country! But, so far, sex addiction, big mac addiction and similar problems are not illegal.
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Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 03/31/2009 - 12:23pmthats so true there are so many "addicts" in this world! i'll bet tons of peaoples grand parents are "addicts" to perscriptions pills. there are all sorts of things people can be addicted to whether it's sex, drugs, food, etc, if we really wanted to lock all these so called addicts up, we would run out of room before we reached half the people we needed to lock up...
It's the fault of the same hypocritical thugs who shot the baby
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 11:52amnot to be confused with the drug gang thugs who also shoot babies but would be out of business if it wasn't for their sponsors, the hypocritical thug drug war jihadists, a/k/a alcohol supremacist bigots.
Ecstasy is a lot more than just meth, it's a true psychedelic drug, deliberately designed to be more social and less introspective than LSD, etc. A powerful drug, not without dangers, but not so dangerous as to be banned for adults.
not designed for anything
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 11:50pmEcstasy is a compound of amphetamine, but very similar molecules can have quite different effects. An example is aspirin and cocaine, which are chemically very similar.
However, it's wrong to suggest that Ecstasy was "designed" to be anything; our knowledge of brain chemistry is not where we can predict what effects a given molecule will have on the brain. All you can do is play around with different amphetamine compounds, adding a chain of atoms here or there, try them out, and see what they do.
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keep your ecstasy out of my meth
Comment posted by rita on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 1:00pmTypically, the warriors have confused CAUSE and EFFECT -- I wonder if dishonesty is a prerequisite for holding public office, or an unavoidable consequence? Or is this inability to reason an effect of the prolonged non-use of illegal drugs?
Office of National "Out-Of-Control" Drug Policy
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 7:32pmPerfect example of how drug market prohibition is no substitute for drug market regulation.
a little tidbit
Comment posted by hippiemommaida on Wed, 01/09/2008 - 1:46pmOk, I have never tried ectasy. A friend many years ago told me that I would like it. So, I figured I'll stay away.
Now, according to HBO, meth is made in every garage and trailer park. It seems to me that an image like that would turn people away. But that was people producing their own poison. You force people away from that and a worser poisen will take its place.
I know of a park where stoners hung out. People complained and the stoners were chased away. Now the complainers, who before could still come to the park, now were afraid to because it was now the hang out for speed users and alcoholics.
When you try to get rid of something, you have to think about what is going to fill the void. Either you are prepared with something, or the picture will darken.
I know what I wanted to say, but I did not want to hurt someone unintentionally, by a missplaced wyrd.
education please
Comment posted by mlang52 on Wed, 01/09/2008 - 5:18pmIs MDMA not just another form of meth (MA), on down the line in the chemical reaction? Could there be some left in the product because of incomplete chemical reaction. I don't know. But with a little knowledge in organic chemistry, I wonder about the "facts". Should there not be amphetamines of other types in the compound? OR is it two, more pure substances, that are being combined, after the "cooking" (manufacture) of both has been completed?
its intentional
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 7:11pmmeth is placed into ecstasy intentionally to drop manufacturing costs, it's also not a chemical intermediate to mdma. meth is made through completely different reaction paths.
crack is wack
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 12:15amblacks love crack ,whites love meth, I wonder who thought of it a the governments war on drugs
Nothing new
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 05/24/2008 - 12:42amMeth laced ecstacy is certainly not a new thing - this has been happening since inception.
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Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 02/01/2009 - 1:41amthose legel pills, such as the doves, have killed someone....
umm lol
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 04/14/2009 - 11:26pmthizz is good but i don't think it should be legal cause i mean it's not good lol and it kills people more than cigarettes and alchohol ( which i think should be illegal ) but i mean meth is a lot worse maybe the same structure but theres still a lot different about it , meth and heroin are way more addicting than any other drug even then coke and crack ... but ecstasy is just something people need to control if their gonna do it , e and weed and shrooms are the only drugs i do anymore because all the other drugs are so bad and not even as fun as e to me haha
heroin makes you ugly and hate life but doesnt really damage your body as much but since you hate life you lose everything
tweak ( meth ) makes you insane , ruins your body because you pull muscles hurt youself and scratch skin off sometimes ( meth bugs ) all because while trippin you dont really feel it lol and when your not on it your really cranky its the same with Heroin
Coke isnt even that good and since it only lasts for 40 min about people do more and more
prescribed pills are just as bad because no one realizes how addicting they really are and they ruin the lining of your stomach and make you throw up a lot and lose tons of weight to where your unhealthy
ecstasy
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/08/2008 - 9:33amecstasy is meth-or rather methylene dioxy methamphetamine [mdma]-the canadian press doesn't understand this and usa press jumped right on it