So you admit that it's foolish to recommend lying to kids about drugs, you just claim that Romney didn't actually do that?

Reality check: he criticized Obama for telling the truth, which is the same as proposing that Obama lie instead. Obama is in the public spotlight and he's gonna have to face up to his past one way or the other. He has two choices: telling the truth or telling a lie. It is beyond obvious which course of action Romney prefers.

Romney wants children to falsely believe that politicians have never done drugs. That's fundamentally dishonest.

Reality check: he criticized Obama for telling the truth, which is the same as proposing that Obama lie instead.

No, it isn't the same.

Logically, there are at least three possibilities: lie, tell the truth, or say nothing. Maybe Romney would have liked Obama to say something like, "I'd rather talk about where I want to lead the country in the future than about what I did in the past."

Or it's possible that he meant something else. I don't know.

A journalist could ask a follow-up question to Romney's campaign: "Is Governor Romney recommending that Senator Obama lie about his past?" I don't know that anybody's done that yet.

What Obama said was perfectly appropriate; indeed, I'd like to see politicians speak up like that. And I'm not going to defend what Romney said. But he does come quite a bit short of recommending that Obama lie.

John Edwards supports medical marijuana. His "sends the wrong message" remark was in reference to decriminalizing marijuana for recreational use.

Still ignorant, but not as bad as sacrificing sick people to the DEA.

“I noticed many drunk parents seriously wondering why their children were having problems with drugs and alcohol, teen pregnancy, DUI’s, etc.”

The severest examples of problem-children are usually those whose parents are the pinnacles of authoritarian perfection. These are the judges’ kids who OD on heroin, cops’ kids who end up in jail for grand theft, and then there are the preachers’ kids who are just too disgusting to talk about.

In a personal rebellion, the pendulum swings equally far from the center when it reaches the other end. And make no mistake, these vile people use drugs in ways that make drugs look really evil.

But aside from those cultures that bind their kids in chains as they struggle to mature and learn; a more common if not more successful home environment involves parents who are moderate in their personal drug habits, knowledgeable and truthful about drugs, and who resist allowing quack organizations such as DARE to educate their kids about drugs.

That’s what it’s come down to, people protecting their kids from defective government sponsored drug education propaganda, while also keeping their kids from awkward encounters with big daddy government that gets little Bobby and Buffy busted and buggered in jail.

“. . . in the past and private”

Agreed.

Privacy is indeed an issue in the drug war. In reference to children, it may be difficult for parents to be discreet when their name is on some government hit list concerning some personal and private act totally irrelevant to the survival of the human species. This and everything about it needs to stop.

“It’s alarming how brutal people can become when they insist on looking at the differences between them and those of other tribes, religions, neighborhoods, etc. Hopefully some day, people will learn to look at the similarities and build upon that rather than the divisive differences.”

Agreed again.

Several drugs, including ecstasy, psilocybin mushrooms, etc., create soft, empathic emotions favoring others, or humanity in general, during the drug session. Psychotherapy research has begun again on some of these drugs after a long hiatus. The bringing together of cultures, as opposed to merely arresting or shooting people, or getting them to shoot each other, may just have a drug solution. It certainly works between individuals.

But, clarifying Mormon culture by going to lds.org? What bias could those guys have? They’re just the Mormon Church, right?

The four-star documentary dealing with modern Mormon culture is by Steven Greenstreet. This Divided State: Death Threats, Bribery, and Family Values…”, (2004). When Greenstreet made the movie, he was a film student at Brigham Young University, so he’s totally impartial in the filming of his fellow Mormons.

The professionally edited DVD depicts the true story of the hilarious efforts to stop film-maker Michael Moore from speaking at Utah Valley State College. Initiated by some local community leaders, red-state/blue-state disputes erupt and rage until the formerly peaceful, idealic, anti-drug community is virtually ripped apart by its own efforts to save itself from the evil Michael Moore.

If the Mormons and the LDS Church should by some odd chance capture the White House in 2008, This Divided State graphically and painfully depicts the Church’s divisive and thoroughly undemocratic vision for America.

Giordano

I just love that line from Jack Nicholson, don’t you?

So, Lee, you’re a military officer, eh? That figures. I’ve known many military officers, some good, some bad, some really bad. As a member of the military, you realize that you have far fewer civil rights than the average American citizen, including those involving free speech. Kinda sucks, doesn’t it? Or, maybe not.

Who needs free speech when there’s a puppet master ready to yank one’s strings on a whim, some fat cat who tells a person what to do, what to think, how to act—essentially how to conduct one’s life from cradle to grave. Sounds like Easy Street, doesn’t it? It takes real guts to do it any other way.

For a person coddled in this way, someone who never thinks for themselves and has never been allowed to set the social and moral boundaries for their own life, then totalitarianism is only a step away from the situation that already exists in their lives.

It’s no secret to those who study fanatical religious sects and religions that such cultures form the insipient basis for fascist governments. Such was the case in Hitler’s Germany, and such is the case now emerging in America within the judicial industrial complex, complete with its drug war saturated by Mormon narks that continues to be a back door for fascist agendas.

On another front, the U.S. is fighting religious battles in Iraq that should have been concluded by some other country in the sixteenth century, all because of people such as you, Lee.

You may not understand what I or anyone else says here because you, like al Qaeda, live in an imagined world. Religions such as Mormonism and Islam demand abstinence not only from drugs, but from the knowledge that contradicts religious belief (this tends to include just about all relevant knowledge, especially the scientific variety). BTW, speaking of real science, your classmate could not have flipped out merely from ingesting marijuana laced with angel dust; he sounds schizophrenic, and schiz is genetic.

Overall, Mormons and Islamists are rabid anti-intellectuals. They fear drugs (alcohol included) not only because they are told by someone in a recognized position of authority to fear drugs, but because some religious leaders believe drugs can be a mind transformer that can shatter the lies and hypocrisies a person has been fed all their life about religion. Ah, that it could be true, but I don’t think it is. If it were a fact, the military could do an aerial spraying of the Mideast with LSD and we’d all be done with that rotten war.

As for what you think I am or were, you’re dead wrong on all counts. But let me see if I can play that same game in your case. I say you were probably raised in some white trash ghetto in deepest, darkest America. You attended the worst schools in the country, schools that taught you what it was to be a good citizen, but which deliberately neglected to instruct you on the true history of America, the world, and the crazed puppeteers who sometimes run it. This was done to make you more controllable in the future. There were no political discussions in your community, because everyone always agreed on everything. You don’t read books. Your family was not wealthy, so you joined the military (unlike Romney’s kids). And now you’re back from Baghdad (Green Zone or combat?) and you expect people on this website to kiss your ring for it. Sound about right?

BTW, welcome home:-)

Giordano

No, Lee, I’m not angry with you. And I wish you and your family the best in every way possible. I don’t know who you are, and my guess, or stereotype, about who you are is obviously wrong. It was meant to be.

My point is that we don’t really know anything about anybody on this blog, for the most part, and that’s a good thing. Because the only thing that matters from that point on are the words that get posted to the blog. And that is a communications miracle. We’re all journalists now.

There seems to be some suspicion of anyone who would take a purely intellectual interest in a phenomenon that is ripping society apart, such as the drug war. Your focus is on the Iraq War, mine is on the dynamics of oppression and persecution. It’s that simple.

Almost every nark who’s collided with the StoptheDrugWar.org blog since I signed on has wanted to know who I am using the same approach you’ve used. I’ve known enough of your good buddies in Defense Intelligence to spot an intelligence scheme when I see one. They’re all transparent. But if your friends really want to know anything about me personally, they’ll have to find out the old fashioned way—by violating my civil rights.

Remember where your are; a drug site. Perhaps you’re not a nark. Maybe no one’s a nark. But please also remember that America is now a country where people doing legitimate research on the wrong topic (such as illegal drugs or even Middle Eastern studies) are not being allowed to leave the country or enter other countries.

I hope you will take a look at the other postings on StoptheDrugWar.org to learn more about this blog’s quest for justice. You can even click on ‘Giordano’ above and read all my other postings. I write to inform, shock and amuse, and I think I succeed.

Enjoy peace.

Giordano