Rudy Giuliani Hates Medical Marijuana, But He Loves OxyContin
Rudy Giuliani has again lashed out at medical marijuana on the campaign trail:
"I believe the effort to try and make marijuana available for medical uses is really a way to legalize it. There's no reason for it," the former New York mayor said during a town hall-style meeting at New Hampshire Technical Institute.He also said there are better alternatives.
"You can accomplish everything you want to accomplish with things other than marijuana, probably better. There are pain medications much superior to marijuana," he said. [AP]
I've already written about the potent irony of Giuliani's opposition to medical marijuana, but if he won’t shut up about this, neither will I. If Rudy Giuliani won't stop talking trash about medical marijuana, and endorsing pharmaceutical alternatives, I won’t stop bringing up the fact that he worked as a hired consultant for OxyContin manufacturer Purdue Pharma.
Giuliani has less than no credibility on this issue because he worked for a company that is in direct competition with medical marijuana. It's really that simple. His claims that medical marijuana is part of a broader legalization conspiracy are also ironic considering that Giuliani played a key role in keeping OxyContin legal after it was linked with widespread abuse. Giuliani personally met with former DEA administrator Asa Hutchinson and persuaded him to leave Purdue alone. Meanwhile, abuse of pharmaceutical drugs, particularly OxyContin, has become the fastest growing drug problem among America's youth.
To be clear, I don't believe OxyContin should be illegal. Patients must be allowed to choose medicines based on what works for them, whether it be OxyContin, medical marijuana, or tree bark. But the transparent hypocrisy of Giuliani's behavior is so over-the-top that it is just impossible to ignore.
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Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 07/21/2007 - 12:27amok...first off, marijuana has over 100 documented medicinal benefits that doctors around the world credit. second, marijuana has no overdose, and no deaths attributed to the substance alone. He said that there are other methods that our better than medicinal marijuana...what like chemotherapy? Sorry i'd rather light up a joint, maintain a steady appetite and low stress levels along with reduced nausea then have my hair fall out and vomit constantly...not to mention slowy and painfully kill myself. It is PROVEN that marijuana slows the aging process of benign and malignant cancer cells.
Facts are well....Facts. Fact is Giuliani is an ignorant piece of shit that does not care for the well being of thousands that would benefit from medicinal mariuana.
AIDS
CANCER
GLAUCOMA
MS
ANOREXIA
HIV
The list goes on....and on....and on....
I can understand that you
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 4:50pmI can understand that you may not understand something you read, but its pretty bad when you cant get it when a person says it out loud.After he complained about his painful cancer he said something along the lines of:
"If the FDA would change its position on Medical Marijuana, I would have to consider it"
That to me, seems like a very good answer with the possibiltiy of atleast a little hope.
You are misunderstanding
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/30/2007 - 11:40amThat isn't what he is saying, he's saying Medical Marijuana. If there is a medical benefit that comes with using Heroin then may as well. We are talking clear cut medical usage. Saying it will be abused can be used for any wide spread of a druge from Caffine (found in most Soda's) to Marijuana.
pigs, theyre all the same greedy breed
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 5:56pmyeah weres my perscription crack, way to hold out for the fat man, guliani. oh well, im pretty sure that fuckhead isnt our next prez., at least i hope to god not, seein as he has commitment issues( ex-wives-burn), and is an all around fuckhead bitch-ass.
Plant based drugs
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 6:04pmIsnt it true that morphine, vicoden, methadone and a bunch of other pain meds are opium derived? Yes, they all come from a lovley little flower called the poppy, cocaine and crack cocaine come from a small leafy plant called a coca plant, cocain is used medically for its numbing effects (novacaine) ect.
Most pain meds seem to come directly from plants, through various proccesses certain things are isolated and we get a nice little pill. marijuana is what it is. Its a flower thats picked and smoked. There is no proccess required. So it is my opinion that marijuana wont be legalized medically because of a lack of profitability. Billions are made off of medications, and to tell people they can plant a flower and feel better would be suicide for a corporation selling pills to cancer patients.
So right, so right.
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 6:24pmThat is definitely what I'm thinking as well. Everyone of 'them' have their hands in each other's pockets.
America: For the Corporations, by the Corporations. We don't matter anymore.
Green(backs)
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 7:33pmWell said....
You cant patent (or make money off of) a drug if it is made of all natural ingredients. Marijuana will never be legal in America until people start thinking with their hearts and not with their wallets. I wont hold my breath.
Lack of profitability?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/31/2007 - 2:53amLack of profitability, are you bloody kidding me? A quick look to the alcohol/tobacco industries is all you need on that subject. Sure, tobacco is addictive, but alcohol is far less so. And both industries are booming. Any industry that can alleviate pain/discomfort of any kind is bound to be swimming in money. Even if it were legalized only on a medical basis, there's a large enough market for the stuff to satisfy more than one company's needs, thus creating competition, which breeds innovation. Stronger marijuana, lowered prices, you know, all of that evil, capitalist pig stuff I'm so fond of. To suggest that there is no market for it that's profitable is laughable at best, downright ignorant of economics at worst.
Seriously...
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 6:19pmLet us support something that is proven to be addictive AND to encourage people to use pharmaceutical company's crap. This will, in turn, give them more and more money, and raise necessary med prices. It fills the pockets of the politicians vested in the companies and the lobbyists of those companies and companies themselves. While regular Americans pay more and more for things they actually need.
My point: Why not use what actually does work, with no possibility of addiction, that just so happens to be the US's BIGGEST CASH CROP.
So much injustice. I feel so small and helpless to change anything, from corruption in the gov't at every level, to the ridiculousness of archaic laws with no pertinence in modern times.
AGH!
I'm SICK and tired of these Blaspheming Bastards!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 6:34pmThese so-called "Carrisssshtuns" keep BLASPHEMING
a holy creation of God, cannabis, who when he created it,
declared it GOOD and beneficial for mankind.
The prohiBITCHtionists call cannabis "Devilweed".
WHaaaa?!
I'm not aware of Satan the Devil being a Co-Creator
along with God. Can't find that in my Bible. No sirree.
I should probably enroll in an anger management class
because of constant negative feelings for these
cold-hearted, compassionless Rudy Guilianis of the world,
who deny their fellowman use of a creation of God, and
if someone so uses this wondrous plant, then the Rudys
have them locked up in a cage like dangerous animals!
And speaking of smoking something, I hope that God will
smoke the hideous asses of these BLASPHEMERS
on Judgment Day.
Reply to Blaspheming #@%&*$
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 07/11/2007 - 11:56pmI read with interest your rant about the so called "Carrisssshtuns" that keep blaspheming a holy creation of God. The problem is that blasphemy can only be toward God in the truist sense. And, in Genesis it does not say that he declared it both good and beneficial to mankind. The logic doesn't hold up (He created poisonous plants etc. that if consumed by man would be fatal). If he created all things and they were declared good by him, which they were, it was more in the grand scheme of his overall creation. What He did say was that he made every herb bearing seed and every tree in which there is fruit of a tree yielding seed for meat for mankind. At the end of His creative acts Genesis says that he looked at all he made and it was very good.
Now to a more balanced approach.
Let's use fruit of the vine as an example. The Bible talks about wine in 2 ways. 1. It can be beneficial for medicinal purposes and as a normal drink consumed modestly. 2. It can be abused and cause drunkenous and chaos.
Paul made it clear that we were not to be drunk with wine because it places us under it's control. Instead, he tells us to be controlled by the Holy Spirit.
How does this relate to marijuana...Simple.
1. It may prove to be beneficial for man to use for medical reasons, but maybe we should allow the medical community to work on that and then begin to go through the process of changing the laws surrounding this.
2. It is also a substance that can have an influence over someone much like wine and therefore violate Paul's principle of being controlled by the Holy Spirit. So from a Christian stand point we should approach it this way.
Caution is advised before we jump off to deep here. It seems that most people at this stage that are calling for legalizing marijuana desire to use it in the later way and not the former. The exception might be the political group of libertarians that want to legalize almost all drugs as a way to fight the war on drugs. Make it legal and it becomes less desireable and more controllable. I don't necessarily agree with that but I do see the logic behind it.
One final word. You stated that you should enroll in an anger managment class so that you could control your negative feelings about those that you feel are being hypocritical. I have another solution. You say that you have a bible and you appear to know a little of what is in there. I encourage you at this point to do the following:
1. Acknowledge the God of the Bible as Creator and that He came to earth to die for our sins. You can't take part of the Bible that you want and not the whole thing.
2. The Creator (Jesus Christ) said that we needed to repent of our sins, following him as Lord of our lives and that we would then be His true disciples. This repentance and following Christ leads to salvation and your anger management is solved because now you have Christ as your master and the Holy Spirit living in you and guiding you and you will be able to forgive the offenders, love your enemies and share the love of God in a positive and proper way that is very different than your post above.
My wife and I will be praying for you...
Holy Schmoly! I feel as if struck by the jawbone of a jackass...
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/16/2007 - 1:07amReply to Blaspheming #@%&*$
Dear ?,
Could you please translate "#@%&*$"?
I don't speak that language.
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 07/11/2007 - 11:56pm
I read with interest your rant about the so called "Carrisssshtuns" that keep blaspheming a holy creation of God.
I find Jesus' rants interesting too, don't you?
Like when he called the Pharisees 'human detritus'.
Man! Was JC on a roll then.
Yes, the "so-called Carrisssshtuns".
For those who didn't get it.
I was, of course referring to fake Christians.
Phony Balonies.
Imposters.
Falsies.
Jesus warned of these.
And remember the parable JC gave about the wheat
and the tares, or WEEDS?
So, when I spoke of the WEED Christians above,
who are prohibitionists in regards the weed...
it's kind of ironic, ain't it?
The problem is that blasphemy can only be toward God in the truist sense.
And when these weed cHRISTIANS call a holy creation
by God a "Devilweed"... that is calling what is good,
EVIL.
Kinda like when the adversaries accused Jesus
of casting out demons by using demonic power.
Might as well as spit in God's face!
So, when these weed cHRISTIANS up and charge God
with creating a plant, cannabis, that is 'of the Devil'
and demonic in nature, that, Hoss, is true Blasphemy
in my book
More later.
I'll get back with you tomorrow...
===================================
And, in Genesis it does not say that he declared it both good and beneficial to mankind. The logic doesn't hold up (He created poisonous plants etc. that if consumed by man would be fatal). If he created all things and they were declared good by him, which they were, it was more in the grand scheme of his overall creation. What He did say was that he made every herb bearing seed and every tree in which there is fruit of a tree yielding seed for meat for mankind. At the end of His creative acts Genesis says that he looked at all he made and it was very good.
Now to a more balanced approach.
Let's use fruit of the vine as an example. The Bible talks about wine in 2 ways. 1. It can be beneficial for medicinal purposes and as a normal drink consumed modestly. 2. It can be abused and cause drunkenous and chaos.
Paul made it clear that we were not to be drunk with wine because it places us under it's control. Instead, he tells us to be controlled by the Holy Spirit.
How does this relate to marijuana...Simple.
1. It may prove to be beneficial for man to use for medical reasons, but maybe we should allow the medical community to work on that and then begin to go through the process of changing the laws surrounding this.
2. It is also a substance that can have an influence over someone much like wine and therefore violate Paul's principle of being controlled by the Holy Spirit. So from a Christian stand point we should approach it this way.
Caution is advised before we jump off to deep here. It seems that most people at this stage that are calling for legalizing marijuana desire to use it in the later way and not the former. The exception might be the political group of libertarians that want to legalize almost all drugs as a way to fight the war on drugs. Make it legal and it becomes less desireable and more controllable. I don't necessarily agree with that but I do see the logic behind it.
One final word. You stated that you should enroll in an anger managment class so that you could control your negative feelings about those that you feel are being hypocritical. I have another solution. You say that you have a bible and you appear to know a little of what is in there. I encourage you at this point to do the following:
1. Acknowledge the God of the Bible as Creator and that He came to earth to die for our sins. You can't take part of the Bible that you want and not the whole thing.
2. The Creator (Jesus Christ) said that we needed to repent of our sins, following him as Lord of our lives and that we would then be His true disciples. This repentance and following Christ leads to salvation and your anger management is solved because now you have Christ as your master and the Holy Spirit living in you and guiding you and you will be able to forgive the offenders, love your enemies and share the love of God in a positive and proper way that is very different than your post above.
My wife and I will be praying for you...
Then?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/30/2007 - 11:47amCan you smoke a joint and get engrossed in the bible, thus leading you to the holy spirit? couldn't the same for wine, so contolling your high is what is we need to do. You hear that? God is cool with smoking up as long as you acknowledge he's still the man. Cool by me, I always listen to Bob Marley and he is very inspiring to loving god. Sick...
LEGALIZE IT ALL
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 7:13pmSeeing that the cia oversees the import of 90% of all the heroin and cocaine that comes in to this country and that weapons manufacturers are the biggest drug money launderers, it just blows my mind how ignorant the populace is. if they legalized ALL drugs their intrinsic VALUE would drop and there would be far less WAR and CHAOS in the world. The punishment is rediculous in some states. Archaic bullshit that the "special interest" textile industry saw fit to put in place 50 years ago. Hell our presidents GREW it! Cancer patients have a RIGHT to it. Its basically a Civil war, a war on our own populace. And then some of the biggest drug dealers in history are on television as hero's immune to prosecution. Enuff of these lies and double standards. I want no part of it...
holy fuck you guys are some
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 07/11/2007 - 1:05amholy fuck you guys are some smart stoners. i like it.
comments
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 07/11/2007 - 4:27pmThis article is informative and makes sense. SOME of these comments are intelligent and well written. But really...
"It's OK to blaze." ?!? Grow up and stop smoking so much weed and maybe you too can have an intelligent response.
I Wrote To Giuliani
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 07/11/2007 - 6:33pmI wrote to him on this subject and await his response..
This is what i wrote to him...
"I believe the effort to try and make marijuana available for medical uses is really a way to legalize it. There's no reason for it,"
"You can accomplish everything you want to accomplish with things other than marijuana, probably better. There are pain medications much superior to marijuana,"
I read this on http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2007/jul/10/rudy_giuliani_hates... and it makes no sense to me...
How could you ever support the most addictive pharmaceutical drug (OxyContin) on the market and completely put down one of the only non-addictive, pain-relieveing, appetite-simulating, and energizing substance which is also believed to be able to even cure various diseases. By saying that it is only a step to legalizing it makes me question your intelligence, since not too many pharmaceutical drugs ever become legal for non-medical reasons. And if you believe marijuana should be illegal than why don't you make alcohol illegal as well, since it isn't helping anything. And yes, you are correct, there are a lot of pain-relievers that are superior in strength, but they contain morphine sulphate, which suppresses respiration. So how exactly are they superior with a possibly lethal side effect?
Please Respond If You Wish To Receive My Vote.
talking the talk......
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 07/11/2007 - 11:42pmI love to sit down for ten minutes each night and smoke some very fine, homegrown marijuana. On the weekends after I work my 55 hour work week to afford to pay for my utilities and health insurance, I organize rallies. Man, have a small rally. Don't get caught with any herb , and make a statement. Guess what happens when all over the land there is PUBLIC reaction. Not this bullshit tabloid newspaper GOSSIP. When your neighbor Jack and Jill see you, They will talk. It will matter to the people. WE ARE THE PEOPLE. Its free to get 20 people with signs protesting at your courthouse. Make pamphlets that give FACTS about the ill effects of alcohol or tobacco and prescription drugs. Give the facts of how much hemp was grown in the USA prior to 1950. Do something. You may see me around the SouthWest Suburbs of Chicago. Start watching the news. All over the land there will be rallies. Eventually the PEOPLE will speak and not CORPORATE giants that hold political office. Our government has been run by SLAVEDRIVERS too long. We are the modern day slaves. WE must wake up and fight every injustice brought upon our people. I have dedicated myself to a worthy cause: legalizing marijuana completely. The day that a can of beer grows on a plant will never appear. But I grow some very fine plants that give the sweetest bud around. Puff a fattie for me and FREE THE BC3
WOW
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 07/12/2007 - 12:09amThe drug laws in this country are so screwed up! the most addictive and dangerous drugs are schedule II but the mind expanding beneficial drugs such as psychedelics and herb are deemed to have no medicinal value. The gov't is scared of these drugs and therefore try to control them.
1.3% of the counrty, since 1914 has been addicted to drugs. This number has not changed. The drug war is a for the government to show haw powerful they are and threaten people into acting the way they want us to.
Meanwhile the people that make the laws are the ones getting high, but they get away with no jail time
Federal Government Agencies - Hypocrisy Infestation
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 07/15/2007 - 1:28amGuiliani will not be president. I certainly won't vote for him. It's time for the Dems to get the chair. Maybe there will be a chance of the Hinchey-Rohrabacher Amendment passing Congress soon. We will see. Pelosi is sympathetic to medical MJ patients, from what I've read. The problem with government that all the agencies do not work together often times contradicting one another. Look at the CIA and FBI, for instance, with regards to security issues. It's whose got the information first. It took 9/11 and lost lives for those jerks to work together. Federal agencies shooting themselves in the foot is nothing new. They've earned that reputation. Things will change when enough American citizens get fed up and show solidarity regarding medicinal use of cannibis. There are so many uses for the cannibis plant. It's a plant! Why would NIDA supply 7 patients with MJ for medicinal use, then the DEA bust down the doors of dispenseries and patients who are dying? Because they're all hypocrites! It's about ideology. Not about scientific evidence! Anytime you have something based on ideological principles you can look for failure. And that's what the War on Drugs campaign is. A failure! It's a joke!
Gosh! I'm so worked up, I need to go take my medicine!
MEDICINAL MJ is HERE TO STAY!!!!!!!
Rock on MPP, NORML, and others!
for legalization
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 07/15/2007 - 6:41pmTo change the laws we will have to show the money side of this issue. Most opposition is from citizens that are very much against any tax. Inform them of no new tax or possible tax cut if MJ was legal- people vote their pocketbook and we are already happily paying their tax for them.It also reduces police actions and incarceration space for more critical issues,another tax cut.
Ron Paul to end the war on drugs
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/24/2007 - 6:23amIf you want to end the war on drugs, you simply need to elect Ron Paul.
Don't forget the 9th and 10th Amendments
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 07/29/2007 - 10:04pmI would say those Amendments basically cover what I would consider an obvious individual right to ingest whatever substance they want, whether it be for medical purposes, or recreational.
Where do people get off thinking they can make these decisions for people? I find the idea atrocious.
What a fucking jackass
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 07/29/2007 - 11:44pmI think that the world is going to run out of digital storage to hold all the stories about idiotic Republicans between now and January '09.
Giuliani is a clown.
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/30/2007 - 12:09amIf he wins this election, then we know this shit is rigged. Seriously, he's a fucking lobbyist for the insurance companies, and he's supposed to be our leader?
As long as we can keep the church out of our government, I'm cool with it. But I feel it creeping in there, and that shit is scary. If this government gets taken over by the church I am out. I do agree that idol worship and weird ceremonies are really archaic, and that universe itself offers wonders much more amazing than any religion.
All your comments about
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 07/30/2007 - 10:10amAll your comments about "rednecks" and "the confederacy" really make you look like a dumbass kid with no knowledge of history, and no tolerance for other people.
Cocaine is already legal
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/31/2007 - 4:00amCocaine is already used by emergency room doctors across the country - including military doctors - for things like major nosebleeds.
(Despite what what some websites say, I know for a fact that Cocaine has been used medicinally and legally by doctors as late as 2005. I have the label from a small bottle of cocaine in one of my scrapbooks. The doctor gave the label to me as a souvenir after he finished off the bottle packing a patient's bloody nose.)
Opiates are chemically very similar to heroin. Ever hear of Morphine? It is still one of the major painkillers in use.
The harder drugs are already legalized, WTF is the problem with medicinal marijuana?
Rudi
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 08/05/2007 - 1:27pmIs the lucky guy who happened to be at the right place at the right time to promote is law and order crap.
His wife (3rd) is a whore who didn't respect his marriage.
Whay would anyone respect him?
the old confederacy
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 08/06/2007 - 10:49pmIt'd be fine with me if New England, the Great Lakes States and the West Coast merged with Canada. The rest of you can have George Bush, who you voted for. Well, take Ohio south of Canton.
Weed and God
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/26/2007 - 9:23pmHere is one problem. Jesus is not who you think he is, and the God of the bible is not who you think he is. Why are they men anyway? Jesus is the sun god RA. This is why he is the light of the world. Without the sun(son) there is no life. I could go very deep with this but not yet. 12 disciples are twelve signs of the zodiac. This is why jesus will be with you until the end of the age(aries). Not end of the world. 12 disciples+ twelve months=12 signs Four seasons = 4 gospels. It is ridiculous it is something to get us arguing over...If I want to drink liquid drano thats on me. I am a free man I can eat or smoke what I want. Oh wrong we are not free then we are slaves. That is the bottom line.
You just said it
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 7:54amWasn't that on the movie zeitgeist, which can be seen on www.zeitgeistmovie.com ? it's not about cannabis, but it clears up bunch of other shit that has been kept from you by blind priests and corrupt governments. Legalize cannabis and grow industrial hemp, and the planet is saved. Peace out.
yo mama
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 11/13/2007 - 9:57pmfuck u bitch pot rules i am gonna get u malafucker i am jodan high kid fuck me in my ass
FuCk YoUu
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 04/24/2008 - 11:44amall Im GoNnA say Is ThaT fuCk YoU N everyBody elSe!!! JuSt blAzE It NigGa N FuCk everyBoDy!!! FUCK THE WORLDDDD!!!!!!!
Buy Drugs Wisely
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 09/12/2008 - 10:11amI agree Scott Morgan " Patients must be allowed to choose medicines based on what works for them, whether it be OxyContin, medical marijuana, or tree bark. But the transparent hypocrisy of Giuliani's behavior is so over-the-top that it is just impossible to ignore."
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There is a difference...
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 7:42amMaybe someone should say to Rudy that medical use is not legalizing. I personally know some paople who ned it desperately!
What about
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 10/15/2008 - 7:45amSick people who need this Marijuana desparately? You can find other generic medications on: http://www.pharm4all.com/
Good information
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 12/27/2008 - 8:58amVery interesting site
www.pensearch.t35.com
Oxycontin, are you f*cking
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 07/10/2007 - 4:48pmOxycontin, are you f*cking kidding me? OKAY, So basically lets just make heroin legal as well.