Salvia Divinorum: Virginia House Passes Ban
A bill to ban the hallucinogenic herb salvia divinorum was approved by a vote of 98-0 in the Virginia House of Delegates Tuesday, paving the way for the Old Dominion to join the handful of states and localities that have already criminalized the member of the mint family. The measure now moves to the state senate.

salvia leaves (photo courtesy Erowid.org)
Sponsored by Delegate John O'Bannon (R-Henrico), HB21 would move salvia from unrestricted status to a Schedule I controlled substance under Virginia law. O'Bannon said he introduced the bill after receiving suggestions he do so from law enforcement.
"It's really not a pleasant thing to take. It can cause bad trips, dysphoria and sweats," O'Bannon said, in remarks reported by The Commonwealth Times, the student newspaper at Virginia Commonwealth University and the only Virginia media outlet to pick up the story.
Which is why, despite all the hullabaloo, salvia has not emerged as a popular drug. Most users are quite happy to limit themselves to using it once or twice.
O'Bannion demonstrated an idiosyncratic view of individual liberties as he discussed his bill. "I'm respectful of individual liberties and public good. I think what's happening is this is becoming a drug that can be misused," O'Bannon said. "Putting it on the Schedule I will not harm anybody," he said, but would make "a reasonable balance between public safety and civil individual liberties."
Of course, putting salvia on Schedule I, where its users would be subject to the same prison terms as the users of other proscribed drugs, would harm those people unfortunate enough to be arrested with it. But O'Bannion and his fellow delegates apparently didn't consider the impact that being caged in jails or prisons for long periods of time has on individual liberty.
RE: Grow your own
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 06/15/2008 - 5:52amYeah!
Here's a nice article on growing salvia divinorum for anyone that wants to grow their own. :)
Growing your own salvia
Comment posted by Salvia Divinroum on Thu, 06/25/2009 - 12:24pmGrowing your own salvia divinorum is hard. Here is one of several information sites covering it: http://www.salvia-world.com
Virginia's Latest Disgrace
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 01/19/2008 - 10:00pmIs there a doctor in the house?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 01/20/2008 - 3:10am"O'Bannion said he introduced the bill after receiving suggestions he do so from law enforcement."
Law enforcement has waaay to big of voice in drug policy. When was the last time we've actually had any kind of health specialist in the Drug Czar position? We've had PhD's in philosophy and political science, retired law enforcement officers and an army general fill this position but if we are going to make progress on drug use and abuse as a health/medical issue, don't we need a doctor of medicine (like a pharmacologist) in the house??? I would definitely make this effort a top priority after Bush is out of the white house. A doctor of any kind is alot less likely to have a penchant for propaganda than people from the other mentioned backgrounds.
Law Enforcement and the Laws
Comment posted by Giordano on Sun, 01/20/2008 - 10:04pm"...suggestions...from law enforcement."
You know you're living in a police state when the police make the laws.
Salvia? What's next, tobacco?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 1:09amThe government will ban a harmless plant like this, yet allow OTC/prescription drugs to completely f*ck with innocent peoples' lives.
Salvia was not the most fun drug I've ever tried, nor was it the cheapest. But it was an experience that I learned a lot from.
There are definitely good reasons to limit or ban the useage of a drug.
- Medium-High potential for addiction
- Decreases driving ability
- DEATHS caused by drug, directly (indirectly must be strongly proven)
Salvia is already legal in most places, why ban it? Why go to jail for something you experience for 5-10 minutes? That's like sending someone to jail for possessing or smoking a single cigarette...
You couldn't possibly drive while feeling Salvia's effects and you are perfectly fine to drive once the effects are gone--within 10-20 minutes. I know this because I smoked it in my car and proceeded to drive away not even 10 minutes afterward. (Make sure to responsibly assess yourself, however.)
No one has ever died doing it. It would have been been banned already if this was the case. It has absolutely no potential for addiction--particularly because it is not something you'd want to do every day or every week. Most people I know have only done it once or twice.
This drug has no proven negative health side effects and no potential to cause harm in people's lives... WHY BAN IT?!
when you can't control
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 07/20/2008 - 9:58pmwhen you can't control yourself while on it is when it should be illegal. You can do a lot of damage in 5-10 minutes. think what MMA fighters do to each other within a single round. I can not tell you what I did to myself after smoking salvia. When I came out of it My knees were scraped up something terrible. knots all over my head, and a painful bruise on my sternum that's been there for over a week now. It was not a scary trip but it aint acid or shrooms. Do I think jail time is necessary? No. A fine and probation? Yes.
So you're saying that
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 02/04/2009 - 10:15pmSo you're saying that smoking salvia turns you into a raging, self-destructive animal? Stop spewing ignorance and ruining everyone's fun.
banning salvia
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:42pmare you serious of course this drug should be banned. Noone knows the long term affects of this drug so there for it could be harmful. It has caused death, if not directly the cause then indirectly but thats neither nor. I have done alot of drugs in my time and I don't down people for wanting a buzz but this drug is way to dangerous and should be banned before it comes widespread and before something horrible happens to someones loved one. Marijuana was banned and it is no where near the same as salvia. My opion BAN IT NOW!!
salvia divinorium
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 02/12/2008 - 2:50amWell to bad for virginia, for the rest, I get my salvia at http://www.salvianoid.com
Salvia Divinorum should stay legal...
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 02/17/2008 - 5:47amI smoked salvia divinorum for my first time yesterday. I had 20x and my mind was blown away i was in a complete different state of conciousness for about 10 minutes. I cant even begin to explain the effects. Besides that i find it to be completely harmless since the trip lasts for a matter of minutes. I believe that if the government is going to ban marijuana thats ok along with other illegal narcotics but keep salvia divinorum legal so we as Americans have at least one type of psychedelic to stay satisfied with, salvia is less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol because there are no reported deaths do to overdose, and it is not physically or psycologically addictive in anyway. Salvia is not a party drug and should never be considered one because taking salvia is more enjoyable when in a quite peaceful environment rather than with loud noise and alot of chatter among people. Once again salvia should be the one and only psychedelic to be legal for the simple fact that allowing it to be consumed will keep people happy and satisfied knowing there is a legal way to have a short-lived mind altering experience. Thank you
Lame.
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 11:48pmSo does anyone know if it is officially illegal? I know it passed in the house but has it been passed by the senate and signed by the governor? If not I have to get to ordering it before it's outlawed. If it has been passed.. darn.
virginia ban
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 9:05amit becomes law july 1st....according to the news friday night in richmond....
Salvia divinorum illegal?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 5:05pmIt appears the ban was signed on March 2, 2008, but goes into effect July 1, 2008.
Can someone confirm that it is illegal when signed, or illegal when the bill becomes effective?
Get it while you can I guess.
Question
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 03/03/2008 - 12:49amI'm not a hundred percent sure that the bill has completely passed and that it is officially illegal now but i came upon this site : http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?081+sum+HB21
and from the looks of it, it IS illegal in VA now!! damn politicians, if they aren't getting a profit off of something they just ban it. I really hope that someone proves me wrong in this case!!
Governor Spitzer is busy at the hotels and cant sign the law to
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 03/12/2008 - 2:21amban salvia. Next they will be wanting to ban sweet flag. Salvia is a great analgesic for pain relief and should remain legal. God gave us natural plants to have and now the government wants to second guess God Almighty? The government needs to patroll their own members in toilets and hotels and leave the plants and natural herbs up to God
Salvia
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 10:06pmI would say as our freedoms are quickly being eroded away and our human rights to seek out higher levels of understanding, health, and persuit of happiness, time to stand up and speek . enough is enough we as Americans dont need political pigeons making decisions on subjects that the have no reason to meddle with. Our country was founded on freedom from religious and personal oppression from a monarchy. Now that we have lost most of our personal rights and presumption of innocents guaranteed by my fore fathers we might as well change the usa to ussr and for those of you that are to young to know of our past threat it is easy to find. We are becomming a nation of people being controled by not only our local governments but by our state and federal government. we no longer have the freedoms that our past generations had and have lost the reason to call us the home of the free. I hope that there are enough of us to finish the verse ,land of the brave. I want you to know that I do not use any drugs that our government consider illegal nor do I use Salvia. I have used drugs when in high school and not since than. I do believe that every american has the right to make those decisions in there life and to live there life as they chose as supposedly free Americans. Now not to contradict myself but yes there are drugs that are proven to be dangerous and can case serious harm. Alchohol kills more people in American than any other drugs combined, Oh i,m not against it I drink also, It must be the ability for control and tax collection by our government. So long ago I believe there was a protest in Boston, they had enough. Now there are alot of laws that I do not agree with and do infrindge on my right of presumed innocent, Im not going to go on but enough is enough. I no longer need someone to hold my hand while i cross the street. So big brother go after the bullies and help the weak; disease, hunger, poverty, homelessness, and lack of education. Let me be the American that I am and have the right to be.
Dan Blevins , The Brave American
looks like florida is next
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 03/31/2008 - 5:45amlooks like florida is next up on the chopping block.... stocking up on some wholesale salvia from salviaextracts.com, min order only 20g.
Salvia Divinorum Smoking
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 05/18/2008 - 3:18amSalvia divinorum is great. Learn how to smoke salvia divinorum at Salvia Smoking Info
Salviaextracts.com
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 05/21/2008 - 6:07pmTerrible extracts poor quality. I have ordered from them before, their crude 20x is like some vendors 5x. I would stay away from Salviaextracts.com, I guess you get what you pay for.
Not Necessarily
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 06/13/2008 - 8:21am"You get what you pay for" - Not Necessarily!
Coffeeshop's salvia extracts are the same standardised extracts that everyone else sells, the difference being they're not out to rip you off.
CoffeeShop
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 7:49pmAre Americans able to purchase from that site as well?
That sucks
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 06/15/2008 - 2:14amWell thats too bad the socialist pigs banned it here. I got my salvia from www.salviaextracts.com too bad the fun is over. Maybe next year when I go to College in California i will be able to do it again.
social pigs? not. It's your puritanical conservatives
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 09/10/2008 - 10:29amThe last people calling for this drugs ban are the "socialists" in Eugene and Berkeley. If you want to know who is to blame, its the puritanical christian culture (typically Republican and conservative) that seeks to ban anything anyone might actually enjoy other than praising God. Banning alcohol? No way. The only thing that ever happens on that is a man crashes his truck, comes home and beats his wife. But hey, that's how it should be, right? Evangelical prings sing the songs of freedom all the time, but other than GUNS, when was the last time their erred on the side of person liberty over public safety?
This is stupid
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 06/24/2008 - 7:19pmOk, so our government is always talking about the rise in crime. That’s because some retard in a big as office votes to prohibit something that people found as an alternative to using illegal substances. Just because some one bans something and slaps a five-year prison term on it doesn’t mean it ceases to exist. I bet that the united states government spends in the billions of dollars a year to fight drugs like marijuana and salvia, these are drugs that will not straight up kill some one!!! if these where just legalized and maintained a moon shine like Stacie America could pay of its debt to china in a few years.
where is the proof
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:49pmWhere is the proof that salvia has never killed anyone?
the fact that it has never
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 05/01/2009 - 10:53pmthe fact that it has never killed anyone...
Salvia is Gay -But dont ban it-
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 8:22pmSeriouslly this is gay. The salvia trip is gay and not enjoyable, I dont know how they copare salvia to be the next marijuana far from it. And if i really wanted that god afull stuff I would just drive to West Virginia or maryland im like 30 min from each state. WOOPTY FUCKING DO! Then years down the road it will be locally grown by illegal plantations of salvia just like cocaine. People are so fucking stupid.
Respect
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 1:46pma href="http://www.salvia-trip.net/" title="salvia trip">Salvia Trip makes for some good reading. So long as people learn to respect the plant, no one should have a problem.
Salvia's a great,
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 09/01/2008 - 2:39pmSalvia's a great, unforgettable experience. There's plenty of warning's on the package if you're mind's too weak to handle it. It's garbage that recreational users like me have to suffer because of pussy-ass politicians can't control their kids.
fuck virginia
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 09/10/2008 - 9:49pmvirginia is a shit hole anyways, full of ignorant redneck alcoholics who pray to their god's still because they can't understand how shit is pumped out of their house and why there's electricity.
fuck them all, fuck them fuck them fuck them fuck them inbred piece of shit fucking their sisters all to hell.
reminds me of my stupid ass drug popping neighbor ---------, she bitches about everyone being a junker then she pops pharmacudicals all the fuckin' time.
inbred white trash assholes!
uneducated, white trash, trailor packing pieces of shit wastes of sperm!
time to leave fucksville virginia.
To whom this message might
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 10:45pmTo whom this message might concern , i will have you know that not everyone in the common wealth of Virginia is an ignorant, uneducated,white trash, trailor packing piece of shit.
-Nate Webber
Left Something Out
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 6:27pmYou left out the "waste of sperm" part at the end. ('-' )
No Subject
Comment posted by Anonymous on Mon, 02/16/2009 - 11:37pmWhy dont you come to Virginia? Bring your bitch ass to Richmond with that shit, see if you get ur fuckin head blown off.
Ohio has been banned We had to move this biz :(
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 04/24/2009 - 11:21pmOver here at www.salviamonster.com we had to move the business :( to PA !!!
fuck that woman!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Wed, 09/10/2008 - 10:25pmso she blames the plant and not herself. since that kid can't defend himself now cuz he's dead.... the truth won't be told why he wanted to die.
it's not the plant that killed him.. i'm sure it was a long term useless mother who was never around for the child in the first place.
so the scapegoat for her was a plant...
i hope she's happy.. not only did she kill her kid not being around and monitoring her child's activities... (probably out getting laid and bar hopping....) but most likely, lack of love, probably abuse in the family... because it takes more than a plant to have someone off themselves... more than a drug.. more than a routine of use of any drug or pharmacudical...
what a piece of shit she is... come on mom... tell us what really lead up to this suicide...
i doubt very highly it was salvia that did it. i think it was more or less.. another BAD PARENT!
So TINCTURES?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 6:30pmSo does this "NEW" Law include TINCTURES as well or just the Plant and Extract?
TheBestSalvia.com - STOP BANNING PLANTS
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 10/17/2008 - 4:48pmWe really need to stop these plant bannings that are going on around our country. Adults should be able to choose what they put in their bodies right? Shouldn't parents know about what their kids might be putting in their bodies? Extracts like this place you canBuy Salvia which is The Best Salvia. I think they play that "save the children" card too much these days.
If they want to save our kids then ban alcohol, it kills more teens and other innocents than anything else.
WHY NOT BANN COCA COLA AND MACDONALDS THEY ARE BAD FOR YOU
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sun, 11/16/2008 - 12:40pmWhy not ban coca cola and macdonalds, chocolate , and monsanto transgenic crops, are they not bad for you ? oh and I forgot lettuce !
Im sure if you analyze most plants deeply enough you wil fiind some kind of toxin , When are they going to opne first Solient green factory
AMERICA , LAND OF THE FREE
salvia vs. the pharm
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 12/04/2008 - 1:30amNot only was it banned and in my opinion debased,i go to alabama once a year and have checks out head shops and NOW the packageing has 18 or older on them , just boost that to 21 and up and theres no real issues.
Sally-D isnt a Hallucinagenic like any of the others,and it realy stops you from doing anything e.g. DRIVEING!!!, whom ever try'd wouldnt have gotten out their driveway....so yes like cigs or alcohol it should be age regulated,and i even have found its not realy helpful to have above 10x extracts "my opinion"... some ppl "as i have" have felted the cleaning it does,ITS GREAT MEDICINE.BUT i also think the big PHARMS have done their research and know they would lose alot of money...
ITS A VERY HEALTHY TRIP, may be scary at first for ppl not expecting to feel delerious :), and whats 5 to 10 minutes...and realy the better more medic effects arent all from just smokeing it, dipping it"holding it in your mouth for a time",makes it a totaly safer , longer and not as incapacitating ,GREAT, expiriance...and yes thats what sally-d does , have you ever been delerious , well this form of it is without the flu and the efter effects are like being reborn with no BAD side effects WHAT SO EVER!
ONE MORE THING !!!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 12/04/2008 - 1:38ami love it , wish it would be regulatedand brought back,it is an aquired taste ,and after a while the ppl that think "been there,done that,not for me"would prolly not go back to it and go back to the Illegal stuff anyways "do to being better"....banning salvia is like giveing these ilegal drugs room to breathe...so they still have reasons to put people in jail....jail jail jail ,war war war , 2 things the subhuman lives love to enforce the most :\
SALVIA OWNS!!! FUCK VA!!!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 12/05/2008 - 6:42pmSALVIA OWNS!!! FUCK VA!!! MATTER FACT FUCK THE EAST COAST!!!
IM STILL GONNA BUY SMOKE AND GROW SALVIA..FUCK THE MAN!!!
Now Ohio Is Banning Salvia!!
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 12/19/2008 - 8:59pmVery soon Ohio will be added to the states that have banned salvia divinorum. The Governor is expected to sign a bill making it Schedule I. For those people who can still legally buy salvia ,the best place is at http://www.ethnobotanicals.com/salvia-divinorum.html
Stupid
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/06/2009 - 6:02pmi hate living in this state, no medical MJ or anything, i wanna move to CA
Schedule I drug???
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/06/2009 - 6:06pmcocaine is a schedule II drug..., dumb as shit...
Salvia is used in some countries to treat addictions.
Comment posted by Anonymous on Tue, 01/27/2009 - 9:25pmThe War On Drugs
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 03/12/2009 - 7:42pmIs Salvia the only Toxin?
Comment posted by Anonymous on Sat, 04/18/2009 - 9:29amThere are lot more other eatables which are toxic by nature just like salvia but i accept they are not as high as salvia. Beverages, lettuce are all having some level of toxicity in it.
The main reason that the society looking Salvia as a illegal drug is because it can only be exposed as a drug and cannot be used for home made recopies, but the sites like http://www.salvanoid.com and http://www.potentsalvia.com are clearly state the effects and experiences of salvia (divinorum) in their salvia selling pages.












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Grow your own
Comment posted by Anonymous on Fri, 01/18/2008 - 1:27pmSalvia divinorum is a lovely houseplant that can be grown easily and in low light levels. the leaves are pale yellow-green to vibrant green with a beautiful iridescence to the them. If you lower the light period showy light blue-purple florescences will develop. I've been growing it for 8 years.
Lets move now to create the same legal situation as currently exists for other beautiful psychoactive plants. START GROWING IT. San Pedro, opium poppy, and many other, technically illegal plants are commonly grown for ornamental purposes. I've seen San Pedro for sale in Lowes and Wal-mart, and I've bought opium poppies, and several mescaline containing cacti from a local nursery (in NC).
Growers of these plants will almost never be prosecuted unless there is evidence that the plants were being grown for ingestion, even then its a very weak case.