Confused Cop Worries That Medical Marijuana Could be Laced With PCP

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Legal medical marijuana has been around for more than a decade now, but that certainly hasn't stopped bitter law-enforcement spokespeople from conjuring horrific doomsday fantasies about it. Police in Rhode Island are still struggling to understand the issue, it seems:

State police Lt. Col. Steven G. O’Donnell said there is nothing prohibiting caregivers from lacing their marijuana with phencyclidine (PCP) or other powerful drugs. [Providence Journal]

No, no, no, you misunderstand, sir. It's medical marijuana that's legal in Rhode Island, not PCP. Got it? Medical m-a-r-i-j-u-a-n-a. You can still arrest people for PCP.  I doubt this will be an issue though, because for some reason, medical marijuana laws don't seem to result in increased use of PCP. It's awesome.

But O'Donnell still doesn't get it. There's something bothering him about marijuana policy, but he can't quite figure out what it is:

"It’s very unregulated," he said. "It makes no sense to us. We regulate hamburger and food, but we do not regulate medical marijuana. There are no checks and balances."

Here, lets try that line again, but this time without the word "medical." I think we're onto something here. If we could all just agree that marijuana – medical and otherwise – needs to be monitored for quality and sold by licensed professionals, maybe we can finally put this whole mess behind us.
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No you dont regulate factory conventional farmed food at all.

O'Donnell is greenwashing prohibition based police! If monsanto human dna and herbicides,pesticides,and synthetic hormones in food,etc.etc. and tons more etc. is regulation then your all fired. You are poisoning food! The only way food is ok to eat is if it is organically and sustainably grown and fairly traded. Medical cannabis is grown organically unlike the poison food you claim is regulated. Most cannabis growers legal or illegal regulate their practices better than any so called prohibition based police force or factory farm. Checks and balances? Keep playing dumb you global corporate polluter implant! I and millions of others practice hatred for all dangerous petrochemiceuticals including pcp whether legal or illegal. If law enforcement were to actually stop corporate polluters from poisoning and mutating food and legal drugs, the O'Donnell argument would have a slim chance of being believable, but it sounds like someone reading a speech and just playing dumb. Its called greenwashing!

Medical Marijuana is a Sham

Medical Marijuana, although is turning into quite a money making business in California, is a fallacy. It was intended to assist people with debilitating or life threatening illnesses; instead it is now a debilitating illness in itself called addiction. Drs. in the area are recommending it (it can not be legally prescribed or dispensed by a pharmacy) for simple things as menstrual cramps, chronic fatigue, stress, headaches, etc. California found the loophole for its citizens to get high and stay that way if they so choose.

Rhode Island and all other states that have now legalizaed medical marijuana and think this is not just a stepping stone for full blown legalization is dead wrong.

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How addictive is it? More

How addictive is it?

More addictive than vicatin or other opiate based pain killers?

More addictive than ssri inhibitors?

I'm pretty sure the answer is, "not even close".

If it works for,"menstrual cramps, chronic fatigue, stress, headaches, etc",then why not prescribe it?

How is it a sham?

How about we save our society from people that just want to control the lives of others so everyone can be as miserable as they are?

oh, God forbid

human beings should be allowed safe relief for pain. I'm against medical marijuana, too, because I DON'T believe it's a stepping stone to legalization. Medical marijuana is a stumbling block, a way to keep government in control of our bodies. I also suggest that, if I'm the one with cancer, not you, I'll be the one living in agony and dying in pain, not you, and you have NO RIGHT, no legal right, no moral right, no human right, to dictate what comfort I may have.

Well said

"It is indeed probable that more harm and misery have been caused by men determined to use coercion to stamp out a moral evil than by men intent on doing evil." -- Fredrich von Hayek, Nobel Laureate in Economics, from "The Constitution of Liberty"

I'm pro-choice on EVERYTHING!

Why the hell would somebody

Why the hell would somebody lace their weed, which they are selling for profit, with something MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WEED?

That's not a very economical decision now is it, Lt. O'donnell.

Medical Marijuana is a Sham -

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I think we could all do well

I think we could all do well do remember that these cops and other drug warriors have been brainwashed into a paradigm that is slowly being stripped from them. Everybody says and does stupid things to resist finding out they've been wrong their whole lives. I certainly have. I think we should forgive the cop for his asinine remark. Lashing out at him will only make the process of drug war rehabilitation slower and more painful for all of us.

Nothing Prohibits Caregivers from Doing the Right Thing

State police Lt. Col. Steven G. O’Donnell said there is nothing prohibiting caregivers from lacing their marijuana with phencyclidine (PCP) or other powerful drugs.”

If Officer O’Donnell had spent fifteen seconds trying to refute his own argument, he would look much less clueless.  Instead, we have one more example of a drug warrior believing everything he thinks—or maybe what he’s been told to think by someone else.

O’Donnell refuses to recognize the essential decency of the American drug culture.  Doping people without their prior knowledge or permission is strictly inappropriate in the world of illegal drugs.  No one wants an unhappy customer, which is what a drug dealer or caregiver would have if they laced marijuana with something else that's stronger, or radically different.

It's noted that the government has no such qualms—witness MKULTRA—an example of government wrongdoing that makes drug dealers look better regulated than the feds.


Jojenn, even if medical

Jojenn, even if medical marijuana were just some elaborate trick to get high, you still haven't said why we should turn people who want that particular high into a criminal underclass. So what if people want to get high? Even if it does hurt some people, you don't have control over whether or not people do drugs. We do have control over how we treat people who do drugs and treating them like they are the enemy in a war is not just an overreaction, it is an outrageous abuse of human rights. People have a right to get high, just like people have a right to meditate and a right to dream at night. Just like they have a right to read books and imagine other worlds. Just like they have a right to drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes, which are highs in their own right.

It seems like you are not so concerned about helping people that hurt themselves with drugs as you are with making sure that everybody behaves the way you want them to behave. If you were actually concerned about helping people, you would have at least tried to check out the scientific claims about the health benefits of cannabis, which you have obviously not done, since you still think medical marijuana is a sham.

Furthermore, it is ridiculous that marijuana must prove to be an enormous benefit to humans in order to "earn" the right to be legal. The motivations concerning the original scheduling of marijuana were based entirely upon greed and had nothing to do with people's health. That alone should be sufficient for us to admit we were wrong and get rid of the law. Let go of the lies. There is a reason so many people are willing to align themselves with a cause that has had so much mud slung at it.

we are trying

To "save our society" but its people like you who are trying to make things worse jojenn.


Take a look at the company Medical Marijuana Inc. It's stock that is sold under the symbol MJNA. Helping people that are suffering is OK now and it's not only here to stay but it is going to help the economy.

Medical Marijuana, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: MJNA) announced today that MOU agreements are now in place with an additional four medical marijuana collectives from different counties in the Northern California region. All four collectives have signed on to implement MJNA's Stored Value Platform System in their respective businesses.

The Stored Value Platform System, a Point-of-Sale system, is a hallmark element of Medical Marijuana's business solutions package. This stored value-based system, once in place, helps businesses that are dispensing medical marijuana more efficiently and securely manage the tasks of revenue and taxation collection. The ease of access to certifiably secure transactions lessens the risk of loss at each level. Both provider and patient benefit greatly from this revolutionary program designed by MJNA.

The addition of collectives within the top half of the Golden State is also important to Medical Marijuana, Inc. as part of its effort to persuade at least one major Bay Area municipality to join in discussions with the Company regarding its automated tax collection solutions.

Per a special July 2009 election, the City of Oakland, CA, will become the first U.S. city to tax proceeds on the sale of medical marijuana. Approximately 80 percent of voters residing within city limits chose to support the initiative, which was adopted by many of the city's medical marijuana collectives and the Oakland City Council as part of the solution to Oakland's longstanding budget shortfall.

Huge outdoor medical cannabis crops for hemp jobs happening:

Have you noticed the skill of the outdoor medical cannabis growers of today? Plants can reach between 10 and 25 feet tall and wide with stems from 5 to 12 inches around at the base,particularly Sativa and Sativa/Indica hybrids. After medical buds/side branches are harvested the large central stem yields a far superior hemp fiber than does lower potency strains. Being able to grow enough large medical cannabis plants such as these for multiple purposes is providing enough sustainable stem material annually to open local workshops and mills for jobs producing fiberboard,composite lumber,paper,clothing,shoes, and the list goes on. By harvest 2010 we will start with the clothing,composite lumber and fiberboard jobs and go from thereon to get the rest of the jobs and products going by 2011. Yes very soon a medical cannabis for hemp based local economy will be in full bloom everywhere as people are blessed with not only jobs but careers in this long overdue to be returned to the people sustainable workforce. Peace,happiness and prosperity to all and may your home be built from medical cannabis for hemp Love, James.

RI State police

I am from RI.It is probably not well known but the truth is that RI is probably the most corrupt state in the country.The entire state is run by the mafia and the state police are right in with them.The entire state govt is run by the mafia from the mayor of Providence to at least one RI state supreme court justice.Google Vincent "Buddy" Cianci,the former mayor of Providence who was convicted for running the city as a criminal enterprise for 20 years.
There is a reason the RI state police don't want legal marijuana.

I have a job, too,

working with vulnerable adults, and I don't do anything without a clear expectation of how it will effect them. And I would never continue on a course of action that obviously causes harm to the people I'm committed to care for. I think we would do well to remember that these cops, brainwashed or not, always have CHOICE, and that they always CHOOSE the course of maximum destruction and minimum thought. Maybe (I doubt it) they're all idiots who shouldn't be trusted with guns or drugs; if they're really just ignorant or clueless, it's willful, deliberate ignorance. And to me, that makes them that much more dangerous. What I think is that they're grown up bullies who finally got the chance to pick on people who are smaller than they are and they run in groups and they spout whatever lies they're told to spout, however outrageous, because they are power-hungry cowards.

Sorry, one more thought . . .

I don't believe for one second that Lt. Col. O'Donnel was confused or ignorant. I think that drug warriors throw this kind of garbage out every chance they get, figuring some of it will stick. Remember strawberry-flavored meth and Homer Simpson-shaped ecstasy tablets for children? It's fear-mongering, plain and simple.

re: How can medical marijuana be medical? Its proven medical

Testimonials on youtube. 'Run from the cure' Rick Simpson also '6 natural cures for cancer' You can also find thousands of testimonials from medical cannabis dispensary patients all over the world who have a clean bill of health with cannabis,proper nutrition, hydration and exercise. It also eases pain and suffering for patients on their deathbed while lifting their spirits with a happier mood. Many patients have got up from their death bed with medical cannabis and returned to better health. Just ask people in your area who have cured cancer,skin and internal,arthritis,athletes foot and other skin problems,and the list goes on and on. Peace,happiness,prosperity to all Love James.

How to Launch a Nationwide Drug Menace

Here is a perfect example of fear-mongering:

it's not just marijuana

It seems like you are not so concerned about helping people that hurt themselves with drugs as you are with making sure that everybody behaves the way you want them to behave. If you were actually concerned about helping people, you would have at least tried to check out the scientific claims about the health benefits of cannabis, which you have obviously not done, since you still think medical marijuana is a sham.

Furthermore, it is ridiculous that marijuana must prove to be an enormous benefit to humans in order to "earn" the right to be legal. The motivations concerning the original scheduling of marijuana were based entirely upon greed and had nothing to do with people's health. That alone should be sufficient for us to admit we were wrong and get rid of the law. Let go of the lies. There is a reason so many people are willing to align themselves with a cause that has had so much mud slung at it.

Watch O'Donnell around medical cannabis gardens

Given what he said about medical marijuana. He and other prohibition terrorists might be planning to sabotage the patients plants with pcp. Hopefully not,but we've all seen how they are exempt from most laws that they enforce. Don't trust anyone that puts down medical cannabis growers. Every medical garden that I have seen on tv and in real life has been organically grown like organic produce.

Where's The PCP?

As a former participant in the psychedelic scene, the last time I saw and ingested actual PCP was in 1993 at an arts festival in northern Vermont. The effect was a full blown "nothing you see is for real" experience. The visuals of LSD multiplied exponentially.
That being said, I have a very hard time believing that PCP is widely available or in production in the quantities needed to fuel persistant rumors of rampant "lacing". I do not promote or endorse the ingestion of any controlled substance, and have not imbibed in over a decade, so dont get any ideas that Im a Tim Leary for the 21st century. The point being; why is PCP still held to be the great tainter of our youths most common choice of recreational drugs? Give it up. Find a new demon to "lace" weed with, like Paraquat....oh never mind, thats been done.

Found It.

After a short turn on the Goggle-go-round, I was able to locate sporadic stories of actual PCP busts. It seems Angel Dust is still lurking the tumble-down neighborhoods of some inner cities. I still fail to see any mention of mass production facilities capable of giving birth to mation wide anecdotal "lacing" sprees. Weed is expensive enough without adding bonus drugs for free, while possibly harming your clientelle.

Cops luv saying they're 'on top of it' but only catch 1 in 10...

Cops luv saying they're 'on top of it' by claiming they catch 1 in 10. Watched an interveiw of a small town narco who actually claimed he catches about 1 in 10 and... "is on top of it"!

Probably more like 1 in a 1000! Besides, even at 1 in 10 that is called 'chasing' NOT 'staying on top of' the situation.

It's simply amazing how delusional cops can become when their effectivenesss or neccesity is questioned.

Medical Marijuana, Inc. Criminal Pump & Dump Scheme?

Medical Marijuana Inc. (MJNA) is truly a forward looking company.

Looking back, it began in 2003 as Berkshire Collection, Inc. (BKCL) of Ontario, Canada. According to a complaint filed 12 Jun 09 by the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) against Blackout Media (BKMP) and its principal Sandy Winick of Toronto, Berkshire Collection was one of 59 subsidiaries spun off from Blackout Media Corporation, formerly known as First Canadian American Holding Corporation, (FCDH).

The SEC complaint alleges these 59 subsidiaries had no legitimate business purpose and were just "public company shells", and that Winick profited at least $3.2 million from selling shares in these "shells" from 2004 through 2007.

On 23 May 05 Berkshire Collection changed its jurisdiction to Oregon, at the same time issuing a 1 for 1,000 reverse split.

I have never before in my life seen a 1 for 1,000 reverse split. A reverse split is typically a last ditch effort to prevent a company from being delisted on an exchange. According to MSN Money, "reverse splits are like a message from management that the underlying business trends are so rotten, they won't be enough to get the stock price up to snuff." Small shareholders, those holding less than 1 share after the reverse split, are cashed out. They're lucky if they get a penny on the dollar.

On 31 Jan 2007 Berkshire Collection changed its name to My Newpedia Corp (MYNW). This incarnation lasted until June of 2008 when it issued 211,926,840 shares of common stock, realizing $100,000. Then My Newpedia changed it's name to Club Vivanet, exchanging 12 shares of MYNW for 1 share of CVIV. Then the merged entities, now named Club Vivanet (CVIV), "took back" 210,117,998 shares in a 1 for 20 reverse split and posted a stunning net profit of $26,040 for 2008.

The Statement of Operations found on page 16 of the Annual Report for Club Vivanet for 31 Dec 08 states that it spent $751,359 on sales and marketing in order to post a profit of $26,040 on revenue of $818,992. While this was more than double the net profit of $12,624 for the previous year, it doesn't seem particularly forthcoming to term the growth "meteoric" as Perlowin does repeatedly.

In April of 2009 Club Vivanet (CVIV) became Medical Marijuana Inc. (MJNA):

We thought at first we'd call our corporation Marijuana Inc. But when you say to someone ... you're in the Marijuana Business, you do get that weird, kinda strange look. But when you say 'We're in the Medical Marijuana Business' ...I don't care where I am, everyone's interested. Not only are they interested, sometimes they're passionately interested because they've heard the stories and they think people should have the freedom to choose the medicine that really does help them.

On 25 Mar 09, the day the name change was filed, the stock was worth 4 cents. The name change and 10 for 1 forward split occurred on 28 Apr 09. The day before the split and name change CVIV closed at 22 cents. The day after, MJNA closed at 62 cents. It has trended downward since.

Perlowin explains it like this, pointing out he got out of prison 19 years ago:

I was the largest marijuana smuggler in West Coast history. The media dubbed me the King of Pot. As the newspapers said, I had a fleet of boats larger than most country's navies, and that was probably true. Made $100 million bucks by the time I was thirty. And then I went to jail for nine years and got out and made some huge businesses in the phone card and international telecom business. We've always had meteorically growing businesses after I got out of prison. Well, before I got out of prison too...

Just look at what happened to our stock from day one and you can see we sort of know know what we're doing in this industry.

He explains that he is "monetizing" the public's desire to legalize marijuana and that buying stock in his company is casting a vote for the legalization of marijuana.

When Obama and the attorney general Holder said that they'd no longer interfere with state laws on marijuana issues, all of a sudden dispensaries and collectives and co-ops started popping up like weeds all over California ... and, all of a sudden, legitimate business people started getting involved and wanting to get involved. And then "we" come along...

This is one of those statements were you don't really know where to begin.

What is this "all of a sudden" legitimate business people are getting involved? Is he saying those dispensaries and co-operatives that have been doing it for years and who built the industry he finds so exciting are not "legitimate business people"? What does this say about The Green Cross - in business in San Francisco for five years and featured in June as an example of how medical marijuana had become mainstream? And, by the way, they've all been using plastic cards of all kinds for years: debit, credit, stored value, ID, and so forth. A manager of one dispensary told me 5 years ago, "Bank of America loves us."

Are we also supposed to believe that the "legitimate business people" who have been waiting for Obama to start the green rush before they got involved will not have the wherewithal to set up a business account with, oh, Bank of America or Wells Fargo, but instead will be "cash based"?

While Perlowin wasn't really sure if New Mexico had passed a medical marijuana law or not and was astonished at what he found when he came to California in February and told his doctor he had insomnia so he could get in a dispensary and see what it was like, he assures us he is the one to tell us all how to do it.

I actually believe New Mexico is one of the places - don't quote me on that because my big focus is on marijuana, on California - but I think New Mexico is one of the places where it's legal. You can look at any of the movement websites like NORML or - that's a great one, - and they really keep you up-to-date on what's going on in each state. So I think it is. And in some places you can have co-ops, like in Colorado and California, and some places you're allowed to grow your own. There's no standardized laws or rules, which for a public company like us makes it really lucrative, or potentially lucrative. Because we can help come in and standardize the industry and help regulate the industry. Again, from the bottom up. Typically a company like this can move much quicker than the government can.

It's all a mish-mash. Every county in California is different from every city. And every state has different rules. And if you standardize it - it will take a few years - but that's one of the things that we're here to do, is to help standardize it. And again, starting with the most lucrative of all, the tax remittance.

And he's going to begin by re-assembling his old organization, from administering taxes paid by the sick and dying for medicine. When asked if he has any plans to own a dispensary:

"If Nevada ever legalizes it - it'll be on the ballot in 2012, November - I would love to have a dispensary inside a casino, growing the marijuana plants..."

Obviously, Medical Marijuana Inc. CEO and King of Pot Bruce Perlowin didn't have "medical marijuana" in mind when he said this. When the host points out this has the appearance of exploitation he replies:

Yeah. So in that case, yeah. In the beginning. no. In the beginning all we want to do is provide all the tools for the dispensaries or the co-ops. In fact, we're going to be doing seminars on how to open up a dispensary and we want management contracts with the dispensaries, not just for the tax card but for inventory control, for grading and standardizing the marijuana for software, for the doctors to use, and evaluating whether sativa or indica should be used for glaucoma vs. cancer vs. MS vs. headaches..."

In the meantime, he hopes to buy "homesteads" of 1 to 5 thousand acres all over the country and grow vegetables or something on them until hemp is legalized, and then convert them to hemp farms. All this from administering taxes paid by the sick and dying for medicine.

It's an intriguing business model. He states they've decided 60% of the profit will go to the company, and 40% to charity.

My job is to empower people, and specifically (because of another model) empower women. 40% of our profits goes to The Global Family and WE (Women Empowerment) because their job is to make sure this wealth goes all over the world to create a thousand millionaire women, who will create a thousand millionaire women each, and then they take over the world in what's known as a global coup, but it's really a coochie coo..

Again, it's difficult to figure out where to begin. Seems a bit sexist (not to mention boorish) to me, but what do I know? Besides there are more pressing issues. For instance, just ten minutes previously he stated 40% of "revenues" would be going to the local community: 10% to schools and or the women's council (because women won't take bribes and kick-backs, but men will); 10% to another local problem like fire or police (speaking of bribes); 10% to another city in America; and 10% to some international problem.

Obviously, how much of what goes where isn't really important. All that's important is that 40% of the stockholders earnings from administering taxes paid on medicine by the sick and dying will go to some charity somewhere. No doubt medical marijuana patients will get a warm glow knowing their disability stipend is going to increase the supply of female millionaires in third world countries.

Among a nebulae of disconnects is that it never occurred to Medical Marijuana Inc. that there are medical marijuana patients that can't afford medicine, that are losing their jobs and their homes, that can't pay lawyers and court costs. And a lot of them are men.

Perlowin says he doesn't smoke marijuana, except rarely.

My prescription's for insomnia. And I don't know if I have insomnia, I'm so excited about what we're doing I can't sleep at night so I jump up and email. I go to sleep. I wake up. I email. And so I'm thinking, 'I really want to go see these dispensaries but you can't get in without a medical condition and I don't want to lie about a medical condition. I won't do that. I'm CEO of a public company, I've got to keep everything really straight. So, I'm thinking, 'wait a minute...' and if I don't have my computer I'm sitting there awake all night, just thinking. So that's clinical insomnia. That's insomnia. So I got my medical marijuana card for being too excited. But I haven't used my marijuana medicine yet because if I do I won't answer my emails all night.

As for the morality of taxing medicine? As for what happens when The Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act (HR 2835) is passed? As for the fact that you don't get a "prescription" for medical marijuana, you get a "recommendation"?

HR 2835 will move marijuana from the Controlled Substances Act's Schedule I to Schedule II. Among other things this will mean marijuana will meet the legal definition of medicine and that doctors can prescribe it the same as pharmaceuticals. And this means it will not be taxed in states such as California where the people think there's something sleazy and just plain wrong about taxing medicine.

Well, maybe by then Perlowin will have his upscale pot emporium in some swanky Las Vegas casino.


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