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David Murray Lies About Steve Kubby's Position on Medical Marijuana

Via DrugWarRant, here's a glimpse at the brilliant methods of ONDCP Chief Scientist David Murray.

First, recall Steve Kubby's brief imprisonment last year. Due to his unique medical condition, many people were concerned that Kubby might not survive being denied access to medical marijuana while in jail. He survived thanks to Marinol and said this about the experience:

"During that time I experienced excruciating pain, a vicious high blood-pressure crisis, passed blood in my urine and I lost 33 pounds. However, there was also good news. I learned that Marinol is an acceptable, if not ideal, substitute for whole cannabis in treating my otherwise fatal disease. Now I am a free man and I am profoundly grateful to be alive and to have friends and supporters such as you."

Testifying before Congress last week, David Murray then twisted Kubby's statement into a pretzel, casting it as a complete reversal of his position on medical marijuana in general:

Founding proponents of medical marijuana in the United States have reversed their key positions of support for medical marijuana. [...] Steve Kubby, another Co-founder of medical marijuana in California stated in a letter to supporters on April 14th, 2006 that "Marinol is an acceptable, if not ideal, substitute for whole cannabis in treating my otherwise fatal disease."

Steve Kubby was just glad to be alive. He lost 33 pounds. He was pissing blood. If that sounds like an endorsement of Marinol as an alternative to whole cannabis, your name must be David Murray. The guy gets caught lying every time he opens his mouth, but this is obscene and disgusting, even by Murray's rock-bottom standards.

It would serve the U.S. Congress well to understand that David Murray does things like this. His claim that Steve Kubby changed his position on medical marijuana is a perfect example of the boundless dishonestly of which he is capable, and in fact specializes in.

This is the typical behavior that can be expected from the very Serious, Scientific, and Responsible people at the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Don't bother asking why it is necessary for them to lie shamelessly about what Steve Kubby has said. They lie to our elected representatives only because they care about us. So we should be grateful that they are as good at lying as they are, lest we should be legally allowed to select medicines based on our experience rather than theirs.

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Pissing Blood

1) Steve Kubby is a crybaby deserter mega exagerator moron
2) that any scientist would use any words he ever uttered is for humor .

you stoners slag the scienctists, and they slag you,
only difference is they are driving the bus of policy and you are hitch hiking

What do you know about adrenal cancer?

Are you an expert on this? I'm not, but Kubby and his doctor insist that marijuana really helps.

Cancer patients are always talking about how helpful marijuana is. Maybe they're telling the truth. If they are, it would be hugely irresponsible to go around calling them fakers.

There are two irrefutable pieces of evidence in favor of medical marijuana:

1. The government has been growing it for decades and actually giving it to certain patients (they still do this).

2. Marinol. If Marinol is medicine, so is marijuana. They have the same active ingredient. The only difference is that marijuana works better for patients than an orally-administered dose of pure THC.

Pissing Blood quite distorts the position of scientists

Most of them support medicinal marijuana, some of the ones that don't make a living off of their opposition or are just old school alcohol supremacist bigots who prefer faith based prejudices to reality based policies.


Yes, Marinol may be a substitute. But how much will they pay the drug company for something a lot cheaper in the raw form? $1,000 a month for Marinol? I bet the other is a lot cheaper! And, it could be even cheaper if the restrictions on medical marijuana were removed! And it does not have to be smoked!


im so tired of all the lies. Our polititans know the truth but because there is so much at stake (money power and control of the basic infrastructure) the continue to lie. Where do you think all that money goes from the big phara and fuel, textiles etc goes? If marijuana is made legal federaly then there will be a HUGE paradime shift in this country. Pharacutical companies will loose billions anualy, fuel companies will no longer have a monopoly on out energy supply...basicly the status qoue of the power bases of this country (and to a lesser extent the world) will completely change. Right now the feds see MMJ comming and know that the day where they will have no choice but to change the laws is right around the corner so they are doing everything they can to stall the passing of such laws to give their "allies" time to figure out how they can control it. They dont want to lose their power or money and thats exactly what will happen. Entire parts of out ecconomy will collapse. For example Lawyers that work only in the maeijuana feild will have to look elsewhere for their blood money. The courts will no longer be able to support "drug rehab re-education" centers which will in turn bankrupt most of them. The fuel companies will have to either get on the band wagon and start producing hemp fuel or take massive hits in the wallet (although it will appen anyway but to a less extent if they do get on).

This "war on drugs" has absolutly nothing to do with the "drugs" but of the control of the system and who has that control/power/money. They will continue to lie to the "converted" (read- mislead citizens that have taken the feds shpeel hook line and sinker and are not free thinking enough to go out and see for themselves) as well as the rest of the world untill we force them to do whats right.

Ive been on medical marijuana for 5 years now. Before I found pot I was ready to eat a bullet as I had tried all the pain killers, nerve pain killers, muscle relaxants, sleep aids, wake up aids, and bathroom aids and they were NOT helping. My body is a little strange when it comes to pain killers as it matabloizes then very quickly (so they dont last long) and my body develops a high tolerance very quickly so the meds dont help much even at very high doses ( I take around 300mg of instant release moraphine every day alnog with my MMJ). So when I "found" MMJ I was at the end of my rope and thats saying a lot as im no longer married (she left when I got hurt) and having to raise my daughter pretty much by myself. When your kid no longer even makes a difference to you because your in so much pain then something is very wrong. I was doing research on the web lookinbg for anything that could help and started finding all kinds of info on pot used medicaly so I tried it....guess what? It worked!!!!!!!! It worked better than anything the doctors had put me on by a factor of 10. anyways im gettin away from the point...we the people need to get rid of the liars in our government and replace them with honest people that will actually do what they are sent there to do. Our system has become corrupt to the core and unless something happens soon we will no longer be the "land of the free" fact we right now look much like germany of the early 40's in many respects.

Pissed off

follow the money

Marinol is a SYNTHETIC THC. it is extraordinarily expensive and will/does place an extra burden on social services/tax-payers/consumers. the PharmaCo's are making a handy profit there. as i am told, THC was isolated away from the whole plant from a schedule 1 to a schedule 2 narcotic, to allow the PharmaCo's to develop and SELL this medicine.
cannabis, in its pure form is cheap, (the patient produces their own) and will save the insurance companies and tax payers BIG bucks if it were widely used to treat medical conditions.

Amend the 21st Amendment, add two words, "and Marijuana"

The 21st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States ended the Prohibition of Alcoholic Beverages.

We can end the Prohibition of Marijuana by simply amending the 21st Amendment:
just add two words,
"and marijuana".

Please visit the Marijuana Party in the State of Vermont.
make marijuana legal dot com

Marijuana Party of Vermont

We would be happy to have Steve Kubby as a Presidential candidate!

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