False Positives: The Dark Secret of the Drug Testing Regime
The New Scientist has an excellent story on student drug testing which reveals, among other things, that the stupid tests don't even work:
What's more, such tests can flag kids who are "clean" and miss genuine users. A study led by [director of the Adolescent Substance Abuse Program at Children's Hospital Boston, Sharon] Levy and published this month in Pediatrics (DOI: 01.1542/peds.2006-2278) examined recent drug tests of teenagers being treated for substance abuse. Of 710 drug tests performed, 85 gave incorrect results, either because the urine sample was too dilute to interpret properly, or because the test picked up prescription medicines.
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"Drug tests can be very difficult to understand and interpret," says Levy. "There are lots of circumstances under which a kid could be using drugs and not test positive or have a positive test when they are not using drugs."
The tests were wrong 11.9% of the time. That's unbelievable. If 12 students out of 100 are getting bogus results, these tests aren't even close to being useful. And while follow-up tests can sometimes set things straight, consider this:
While the rules for federally funded testing say positive results must be checked by an approved lab, no such rules exist for the approximately 500 schools that are testing without federal grants. "Confirmatory testing adds a lot of cost. I don't think most schools are doing it." Levy says.
So the tests are wrong with frightening regularity, yet many schools don’t even have procedures for following up on positive results. That doesn't mean they aren't doing it, but it certainly raises doubts. Here's just one example of how a false positive test can destroy a student's relationship with their school.
As reformers, I believe we've been remiss in failing to emphasize false positives as a primary argument against student drug testing. It may prove difficult to establish the frequency with which they occur, but one is too many and the victims are highly sympathetic. When innocent non-users are accused and subjected to the stigma of drug use erroneously, all perceived values of the program are cast into doubt. This is an argument that might catch the attention of "clean" kids and proud parents who think they've got nothing to lose here.
Funny Side-note: SSDP's Tom Angell once urine tested himself for fun. Tom's reputation for partying is rather undistinguished, so we were certain he'd come up negative across the board. Instead, he came up positive for amphetamines and barbiturates (isn't that what killed Elvis?).
It was amusing that the test was so completely wrong the first time we ever tried it. But then we got chills thinking about families being torn apart by these fraudulent products. Come to think of it, there's nothing at all funny about any of this.
Was hard to believe until I saw this page. FALSE POSITIVE "COCAI
Been out of work for 9 months now, moved back home and finally found a promosing gigg until about an hour ago. I got a call from a doctor stating to me that I tested positive for "COCAINE" never used the stuff, can't afford it from what I have heard and I called the manager to tell him that this couldn't be true because the only thing I use is my high blood pressure meds and that is it.
The emp;oyer said let me talk to someone, which seems like a blow off, but lets see if we can work something out. This mess is crazy with all ths false positive stuff.
Do they understand that they are messing with peoples lively hoods here. Man I hope that they can see through this.
false positive
it was a hair test
Hair Tested positive for cocaine?
I just got the results from a hair test for my dream job, and it came back positive for cocaine.
I don't use drugs, but I have been taking Accutrim to loose weight.
I cannot believe this. I am so depressed. I have been out of work for a long time, and this has devistated me beyond belief. I was so sure I was getting the job, but.....
False Positives
I am an opiate addict in recovery for many years now. Yesterday I was in to see my doctor for my regular urinanalysis as I have been taking Suboxone to help with pain management as I injured my back a couple years ago and cannot safely take any other type of pain med. Why he waited until now to tell me, is beyond me. But he stated "this is what some like to call a Jesus moment"...and then proceeded to tell me I have tested positive for Marijuana several times over the past year and a couple times for COKE!! And a couple times for amphetamines and opiates. Unfortuantely as opiates WERE my drug of choice..I don't have much leg to stand on to argue that. But I havn't used opiates except for one relapse in the last year that I admitted too {but previously had several years of clean time} and I have not touched Marijuana in over 8 years! I have tried coke two times in my life..over 5 years ago. I have never taken amphetamines until recently prescribed to me by this same doctor for a sleep disorder I am dealing with..{which leads me to another question: why would he prescribe adderall to me if I tested positive a few months ago-therefore seemingly abusing it as I certainly was never prescribed this until now? Why would any doctor prescribe this if a test looked like I had a problem with this drug?} I have never taken Benzo's other than a one time prescription about 3 years ago after the murder of my infant nephew..when the script was gone {after 30 days}..that was it. I am doing much research and have given this doctor a list of all OTC and prescribed {to me} meds I have ingested over the last year and hoping he will help me figure this out! I also am going to pay out of pocket for at home drug tests and bring them to my next appointment to have the nurse winess the test performed and compare the results with their lab results {which get tested by some lab of which I don't know the name or location}..but clearly someone is screwing up BIGTIME at this lab or it is my own medications causing this. I'm talking their have been over ten positive tests in the last year! My doctor told me that a false positive can happen but not this often!! He told me to stop and that clearly I am very sick and need help!!! I am with a counselor I still go to meetings and take my medications as prescribed! I do not associate with drug users and had a great job as a substance abuse counselor until some recent health problems got in the way..and deciding to take a leave of absence due to my relapse. My big question is WHY in the world would my doctor only be telliing me about these positive results NOW? And what in the world am I supposed to do about this other than fight tooth and nail with my honest words and bring my own tests to the doctor {which from all these emails from others make it look sound like the home tests are just as faulty!}. I have two children and could face losing them if my doctor chose to report this to DHS! I am extremely stressed and feel alone in this fight! I used to be the type of person that felt bad for the people who tried to deny so called "foolproof" drug test results! I would say: "How can they continue to deny this even after a test confirms it?" I agree with the folks who made the statement that this is ruining peoples lives! Nevermind the individual who is in recovery! For me this looks especailly bad as there was a time when I had a drug problem! But I have learned that lying about it only digs the 'hole' deeper and I would never again risk so much for a temporary "high"!! I am a good mother and my boyfriend and sister know that this is false but how to prove this to my doctor and anyone else that may come to question this??! Please help!!
Im a recovering alcoholic,
Im a recovering alcoholic, been of alcohol for 13month now, i recently had a hair strand test carried out to prove to the father of my 2 boys that im not depentant on alcohol, i wasnt worried about the result because i knew 100% that i haven't touched a drop in the past 13month, i was devasted when i did get my result it was 'POSITIVE', luckily for me my court case has been ajourned and im fortunate to have another test done, not by the same Lab. What worrys me now thou is that im scared incase the new one comes back POSITIVE, this result is so important to me because its the link between me getting to see my children, so they have my life in there hands, how unfair is that, if anyone can help me out there or if anyone is going through simuilar experiences, please,please email me. [email protected]. Thank you for reading this.
An injustice by the justice service!
I to have been wrongly accussed of taking Amphetamines, I found myself in a court room having everyone on the case accussing me of being an alcholic drug addict who is in denial, for something i hadn't even taken. They wanted me to lie on the Bible to tell them i'd taken things that i hadn't because my tests had come back showing Amphetamines. My children mean everything to me! WHY would i take a test to get my children and take drugs to destroy that from happening? The judge has seperated my children my 9 yr old daughter now lives with my parents & my 4 yr old daughter lives with her dad, who put me through 6 1/2 yrs of violence and control and manipulation. He is the one who should be punished, not my children. How can i prove my innoscents and get my children back with their mum where they belong?!
i know the pain
false positive
I take anti inflammatories meds and anxiety med every day and came up positive for marijuana so your prescription meds will cause you to fail a test. Always take your meds and mg and dr who prescribed so they can verify!
false positive hair drug test
i dont understand this is affecting alot good people. i just took a hair drug test and i tested positive for coke. i have never done coke in my life. my heart is broken and i am so confused. when the lab called me i wanted to grab that man through the phone and beat the hell out of him. im still in shock and have cried for the last pass four days. this has caused me to miss out on the job of my dreams. i have always heard bad things happen to good people...... i believe that now. may god bless all of us.
I have taken a drug test 2
What was the outcome of
I will be PRAYING for you and
I will be PRAYING for you and ALL those who are FALSELY ACCUSED by these FALSE-POSITIVE COCAINE AND OTHER DRUGS TESTS. I TOO,AM A VICTIM. I PRAY THAT GOD WILL HELP US ALL.
Why me????
I had my son taken away from me because of his abusive father, now my sons father is in jail and I have to go to numerous counseling appointments including getting drug tested every week. My drug evaluator just informed me that my drug test came up positive for cocaine and they are now doing a another test to see why it came back negative. I am so close to getting my son back and this kills me knowing I had a positive test for cocaine. The only thing I can think of is someone I didn't know put it in a drink or something a few days ago when i went out to the bar could this be true?? what should I do?? will the state prolong me from getting my son back even though I never touched cocaine?
really bad science
Hair tests are about the least accurate drug tests out there, which is pretty sad given that mouth swabs have 1/3 false negative and 1/3 false positive (so they are only right 1/3 of the time).
The initial ideas behind hair testing for drugs was that it (supposedly) would test everything inside of that hair... everything that the person ingested or smoked for many many months (like counting tree rings). In reality this is not what it does at all. This (one again) shows that people make stupid assumptions of bad logic, and ruin other peoples lives based on their inability to think.
Hair testing for drugs is mostly testing what is *ON* your hair not what is *IN* your hair.
That means that (aside from lots of false positives because some the labs are just crap) ... even when the test IS accurate, they are telling you that at some point you were AROUND the drug. Cocaine and METH are on all the paper money in the USA. People smoke crack and pot and meth... and the other people walk (unknowingly) through the smoke. It is nearly impossible to walk through a US neighborhood and not pass through enough airborne drug some to test positive.
If you touch ANY money and then "smooth down"/arrange your hair (or if you keep a comb/brush in the same purse where you keep cash) it would be very AMAZING it you did NOT test positive for something in a hair test.
This is the same bullshit "not really science" that cops and courts use to convict people of murder (or assault with a deadly weapon) due to "gun powder residue" when the truth is that EVERYONE tests positive for gun powder residue if they live in a city, or in a rural area where people hunt. It is in the air. If a gun was discharged within several city blocks of any location where the suspect went... they will test positive.
Testing positive doesn't prove YOU did anything. All it proves is that cross contamination is conmon.
Also give that drug tests for pot nearly always test for THCa (which can stick around for months) and that THCa is also an endocannabinoid (your body makes it) ... well now ... if you meditate or do yoga or anything else that give your a very clam mental state, you can test positive for for THCa just because your endocannabinoid system is working properly.
in the last 2 months i shot
in the last 2 months i shot up meth. cps took my 7 month old daughter from me. 4 days later i had a urine drug test. it was negative for the 5 things they test for. amphetamines,methamphetamines, thc, cocaine and opiates. the next day they took a sample of my daughter's hair and the results came back positive for methamphetamines, amphetamines and morphine. i have never in my life done morphine. and i never smoked meth around my daughter. how do i prove this is not right? i think they are lying
mother with the same story as yours
hi, my name is jeanette michales and i would really like to talk to you seeing azs we both have the same story, except mine has ended with my oldest son living with his crack head father. y two middle children with thier phycotic grandmother and my youngest being put up for adoption after me doing meth far away from my children over the weekend and the took my kids and drug tested them, My oldest son and my baby supposively tested positive with meth in thier hair follicles and the two middle children tested negative. They were always together because we did'nt allow anyone to babysit our boys except thier grandmother. And thier was no possible way for the boys to test positive. I was charged with felony child abuse and child neglect and was arrested just days after they took my boys. I sat in jail for 25 daysd before my bail was posted for something i did not do.While I was in jail................
possible reason for positive results in your baby
the reason they take your child's hair (in most instances) is to see what she may have been exposed to in utero. to see if you may have used while pregnant. most hair follicle test are very accurate up to one year and fairly accurate up to 3 years depending on the length of hair taken. the morphine is most likely something she was exposed to in labor if you received anything for pain, it would be an "opiate" which is actually what she tested positive for, because in drug screens you CAN NOT differentiate between, codeine, morphine, demerol or herion. so if you get a copy of her birth records that should appease them in that area. as for the amphetamines(unless you have or had a prescription for adderall) and the methamphetamines there is very little evidence to show them you didn't use while pregnant. the only other way for her to get this in her system is if you breastfeed. most of these chemical can and will be passed through breastmilk. either way i wish you both the best of luck.keep your head up and stay strong. If you get clean you will have her back in no time.:)
crappy testing with no logic
As I just said above, all that proves is that :
A) a LOT of the labs suck (their tests are wrong a lot)
B) there are a lot of non prescription and prescription meds that give you false positives... and I do mean a LOT
C) you are also being testing for all of the air you inhaled (or passed though for a hair test).
D) swab tests are wrong 66% of the time and the people who MAKE them say they that should not be used for law enforcement or employment purposes...which is exactly WHY they are being used/purchased and sold.
Something Needs to be Done!
I am so sorry that everyone in this forum has experienced such a demeaning and unjust experience due to the lack of compassion by those who ruined many lives. Considering this is apparently an ongoing issue with false positives for drug screens, something needs to be done and soon. Surely there is a way to ban such tests or to refuse such tests based on the many accounts of false positives mentioned in this forum as well as in various other forums. What are we being subjected to? How can one test be sufficient enough to completely ruin a person's life? There is no telling what can happen to a specimen once it leaves your sight. For all we know, the people doing the testing in the labs are doped up and are contaminating our specimens.
I have to say that I have not yet tested false positive for a drug test. However, I am undergoing a messy custody case with my family and the GAL has required a hair follicle test. The Department of Family and Children Services are not involved in the case, and have deemed me a fit parent as well as the superior court judge who presided over my divorce. However, the GAL wants to be difficult and requires me to have a completely clear drug screen. She knows I take Adderall for ADHD and she knows it will show up in the test because I have to take it daily. How can she ask for a completely clean specimen? (Yes, Adderall does show up as Amphetamines). Now I am terrified that they are going to take my kids, my future will be flushed down the drain because I am going into criminal justice, and this is all because of a dispute I had with my folks. It's like my whole life and everything I have worked so hard for is hanging in the balance because of one test that can completely destroy me.
I know that I have to take the test, but I have to say that I am a lot more scared now after reading these posts than I was before. I already know that if my test shows up false positive, the court will have no mercy on me because my stepmother is friends with half the people in the courtroom due to her previous career as a police officer in that county (it's not paranoia, she told me from her own smirking lips).
So, the question I urge all of you to ask yourselves is what can we do to put an end to such false allegations in order to retain the life we have worked so hard for? I am sure the government knows the life-altering costs of false positive drug screens, and I am even more sure they know how common they are. Do you realize how many sites are out there now addressing these same issues? I cannot tell you how may I have run across: ways to pass a drug test, what to prepare for if you obtain a false positive, what drugs cause false positives, what information one should gather before testing in order to ensure fair results....etc. The lists are endless. Therefore, it is beyond a reasonable doubt that false positives are common and the consequences are known. So why hasn't the public spoken out against these tests? Why aren't there web sites or resources available when a person is accused of something so scandalous? We are talking about people's lives here. Not to mention the children who are affected when they are taken away from their parents after a false positive drug screen. It makes you wonder just how many broken families there are today because of one false positive test and the people who refuse to allow a retest.
I have some suggested reading with interesting information on drug tests, what to expect, and what is involved with false positives: http://www.drug-testing-solutions.net/ ; http://www.drugdetection.net/drug.htm ; http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml ; http://www.wpxi.com/news/25370016/detail.html ; http://deltabravo.net/custody/drugtest.php. These are just a few of the web sites dedicated to providing information for those who have encountered problems with false positive drug tests, or who are about to take a drug test and are unsure about what to expect or what to do.
I suggest that anyone who has been requested to take a drug test brush up on as much reading as possible in order to become aware of what is involved with drug testing. Although many tests result in happy endings, there are always those few who become victimized by what was thought to be the most reliable and trustworthy method for determining drug abuse.
Naturally, people may think these testimonies listed in this forum, and many others, are those of people who are in denial of their drug habits. For those of you who think this way, I hope you never encounter the difficulties many of these people have faced. I also hope you can continue to think this way. However, what happens if you wake up one morning, go to work, and are presented with a random drug screen? Of coarse you are not worried, why should you be, you don't take drugs. Now, imagine that the test results indicate you have abused some sort of illicit drug...now, what are your thoughts? What will you lose for something you did not do?
This can happen, and it does happen. Not to mention it is happening more and more frequently. Wouldn't you like to be prepared? Again, I suggest gathering as much knowledge as possible regarding the issues of false positives. I also suggest that something be done to ensure the safety of everyone who is subjected to take a drug test. There has to be a more secure way of submitting a drug test without the worries of being condemned. Any suggestions?
negative hair test but positive urine
Tell me how this can happen? I take a hair folic test and urine the same day and the hair test came back negative but the urine came back positive how is that and they still took my kids and i cant get them back. I hired a five thousand dollar attorney that did nothing for me and after my case was over i was informed that my ex mother in law had worked for him. She was against me after i left her son and she would do anything to get my kids and she succeed. I need to know how cps can do what they want. And we mothers and fathers that love our kids and miss them everyday. How can we over turn a case thats been over six years? I appealed my case but who does my appeal yep the lawyer that was already against me after i paid him the five thousands dollars of course. Any feed back on how to help please!
possible explanation
A possible explanation, and most likely the way the courts perceived is this.. a urine test, with the exception of marijuana, is only in your body up to a week. while hair follicles can read almost indefinably depending on length of the hair. (.5 inches per month is what they use; as it is the average rate of growth) so if your hair is only 6 inches they can go back 1 year, however most labs only test 1.5 inches which is a 90 day test.
while absolutely ludicrous i suppose they thought you had used so recently it hadn't shown up yet on your scalp. you should really try another attorney because they should not(unless there is another reason or issu you are not stating here that they can legally take your children. because at best your test results show you may have used a drug up to a few times in that week, but have absolutely no signs of past drug abuse. and they usually don't go snatching kids up because a parent got high once or twice its addiction that they are concerned about.
i hope this helps. stay strong and DO NOT use again, you may be able to get a retest and have the whole thing dropped.
negative hair test but positive urine
Tell me how this can happen? I take a hair folic test and urine the same day and the hair test came back negative but the urine came back positive how is that and they still took my kids and i cant get them back. I hired a five thousand dollar attorney that did nothing for me and after my case was over i was informed that my ex mother in law had worked for him. She was against me after i left her son and she would do anything to get my kids and she succeed. I need to know how cps can do what they want. And we mothers and fathers that love our kids and miss them everyday. How can we over turn a case thats been over six years? I appealed my case but who does my appeal yep the lawyer that was already against me after i paid him the five thousands dollars of course. Any feed back on how to help please!
This is scary! everyone should worry...
I to just got a false positive for 2 drugs and 6 weeks ago i failed for one of those drugs that i had to pay for a re -test and the second results came back i didn't have this drug in my system ,that it was actually a BC its a cheap form of OTC pain relief that comes in a powder form. Now about 6 weeks later i fail again for the same drug & + ONE, I'm so scared, the BC i stopped taking so why,how do i have this drug 'false drug" result on my urine test and why,how do i now have a second drug?!? i also had a clean drug screen in between these two false test so it's not like the first confirmed FALSE negative drug (BC) could be in my system still to explain and even make me feel a little better and that things are okay,and that the truth will come out on the re-test, really thou TWO drugs this time... I am terrified that i will be stuck with this,maybe there is even FRAUD or LAW being broken,a SCAM for money maybe? you do have to pay out of pocket for the testing.. something is not right, how can this happen it seems to coincidental and if this comes back a true fail,people with think that very same thing about me. I'm so mad and if this don't work itself out i will study even more to push for change. We should all bring it to every ones pages,sites,write letters,get signatures on a letter of change! this is so scary that our very own well being,income,family rides on a result that is not 99.99% right. ARE THESE PEOPLE OF HIGH PRIORITY GOVERNMENT JOBS WILLING TO GAMBLE WITH THIS? if there subjected to a life time of random testing and take prescribed medication, over counter, homeopathic, herbs, and the very food you eat with your family, a simple drink.. HOW is this making AMERICA GREAT? or even helping with jobs if the very people miss opportunity and experience hardship because of this testing that no one can say, this is accurate without a doubt. This is a weapon upon people. How does one prove there innocence? how is it constitutional if we cant?
Re: this is scary
Las Vegas False Drug test
I've been looking for a job for 4 months, I recently got hired a great hospital pending the drug test. I went into the hair drug test with no worries, only to be notified that I tested positive for COCAINE! I was and am still floored because I have never even seen cocaine in real life, except for on television and in movies. I just graduated with my bachelors and now I worried about applying anywhere because I don't know if I will test positive again! I'm devastated and can't help thinking "why me". It's so unfair! My sister is an attorney so I'm seeing if there is anything I can do legally. Everyone on this forum: we should start a class action law suit! This has got to stop. Of course I have an independent test pending, and I'm biting my nails wondering if it will be negative or positive, which is crazy being that I'VE NEVER USED DRUGS!!! ...
methadone
My husband had a random drug test on 6/2010. He came up positive for methadone. He feels someone got into his company truck and put some liquid methadone in his water bottle. He had to fire an employee and the last words to my husband from him was that he better watch his back, because he would get his job. When the company takes you urine they always, always split the sample. For some reason his sample was not split. When he requested that they redo his sample the lab reported back that for some reason his sample was not split and there was not enough to redo the sample. Long story short, we retained a lawyer and it went all the was to the corporate level. So in fairness corporate said for my husband to go and retake the test and of course his sample was clean..
Six month later he was sent for another random drug test and they told him that he was not suppose to be working on this job, because if you come up dirty, you go through rehab and it is a year before you can get back on the job. So now the sample that was drawn 6 months ago in which the doctor said that he didn't have enough to run a test over again has gone back to that 6 month sample and more than likely has sent it to a lab the can run a test on a sample where there is hardly any urine. The doctor said that he was going to send it to a different lab. Why could this not been done 6 months ago? Is there a time frame in which samples go bad? Don't you think this sounds like double jeopardy? In other words when the corporate level cleared him six months ago and now they want another bite of the apple, I don't see how this would be aloud. Another analogy would be if I got charged with 3 offences and went to court and the judge thru out 2 of the charges, therefore; I was only charged with the one offence. Then 6 months down the road, the judge hauls me back into court and says he made a mistake that he was now going to charge me with all 3 offences. This could not legally be done.
I would like to hear from you with an opinion please.
Don't you think this sounds like double jeopardy?
>Don't you think this sounds like double jeopardy?
"double jeopardy" refers to a situation where a person is tried TWICE for the same CAPITAL CRIME (death penalty)
There was not court, cops or trial involved here.
There certainly was no worried about him getting the death penalty.
Frankly this is one of the many odd things about drug testing for jobs. If a COURT/DA's office wanted to get a drug sample form you they would need a warrant from a judge (with probable cause).
However your employer (or possible future employer) is allowed to require ANYTHING from you. They are not a part of the legal system, and powers for "search and seizure" are supposed to be limited to the legal system... not just handed out to everyone. Your future employer does not have the right to search your home - because they are not a police organization, so ... why do they have the right to search your body, using the threat of poverty and possible starvation/homelessness as COERCION to get you to cooperate? The whole thing is legally dodgy.
urine test came back positive
went for a pre employment drug screen did nto think I would have a problem, never have before. Well i guess i was to confident cause this one came back with something on it that would not allow me to be hired. I called the employer and found out tuesday, they do not get the actual results but get a " can be hired" or "do not hire". They suggested I call the lab to find out why. Well that was a complete dead end. Was on the phone for over an hour and got nowhere. Finally was told taht since the employer paid for the test they could not give me the results. Even offered to pay for the results and was told no go. Ok think about this, it was my urine that was sampled. it was my time I am not saying the comapny paying should not get the results but heck if it was my credit that kept me from being hired they would give me a credit report, if it was my background i can get them to send a background report to me, and I can NOT get a drug test result.
Now here is more, I had taken over the counter cold and flu medicine, plus aleve and some leg cramp stuff my wife gets me at walmart. I was never called by the medical review officer to see if i took anything over the counter, never asked if i had a prescription for any medication so how do they know if i am a drug user or if i have a few medical problems that require medicine that will not keep me from doing the job safely.
On top of this I am trying to get my CDL. however getting a job after failing a drug test is next to impossible with the comapny i want to go with. They do not want drug takers and have a zero drug abuse policy, as they should. If I tell them no I never failed a drug test, it would be lying and grounds to be fired, if i tell them yes I have a very good chance of not getting hired.
The only reason to get the job at this employer ( whoich would have been my second job..both full time) was to get bills paid up and get my paperwork for getting my cdl. Now what
job
i recently took a hair test for bnsf railroad having not smoked pot for many years and i mean alot of years since collage. the lady that did the test spoke with me and said i failed for marijuanna . and she did not know anything bascilly rushing me off the phone she dident know if they were other bags of unopened hair or if the solution was cleaned before washing my clean hair to make it dirty bnsf said these texts are 100%accurate and deny me a retest can't apply for one year and have to go for a medicial review first well since its been years i can do a medicial review today. but the company makes me now wait 1 year this is unfair and unprofessional since there are hundreds of false positives every day i know alot of people that work there that smoke pot and they don't hair test them just the new hires who cares anyway a third of the unitedstates have mediciall pot access to them as i mentioned UNITED STATES how are we united when laws change from state to state come on everybody VOTE FOR RON PAUL like princes laia siad hes our only hope . anyone with any advise please reply
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!!!
possible explanation
over use of oragel or any benzocaine, lidocaine (like from your dentist) can occasionally show up as cocaine they are in the same drug family. and as for the weed unless your a heavy smoker marijuana does not always show up on hair. but remember IT IS THE HARDEST TO GET OUT OF YOUR URINE, AND IT TAKES 5-10 TIMES LONGER TO CLEAR THROUGH. just a heads up
made waves n was told they might retaliate
Tested POSITIVE for Cocaine
I recently lost my job of 3 years because I tested positive for cocaine after I got hurt at work. I don't do drugs, I don't even take any meds because I don't have any medical problems, nor am I ever sick. I bought a home drug test and I got negative results for the 4 drugs it tested for, THC, Cocaine, Meth and Opium. I am now awaiting approval from my doctor to allow me to take a drug test. What a mess.
For those of you awaiting the results of your retests, how did it go? What did your results show? Is there a way to sue those who deny retakes.
i just went through the same
false positive on for cocaine on a hair follicle. hell i don't even drink, i lost my job and even though people say they can't believe i hear from other co-workers that terrible things are being said behind my back. Never felt so helpless in my life, i paid for the retest and im just sitting back and waiting for the results, i hope its good news.......
could I be pregnant and not know? can/do they test for that?
I had to take a UA as part of the hiring process for an oil change/tire place. I am a woman, I'm small and fit, and I hadn't smoked in 3 weeks (not a chronic user. once or twice a week and only one or two vapes or tokes) and did a cleansing drink and drank lots of tea. the day of the test I drank like 3 bags of the Yogi brand Peach detox herbal tea and lots of water. I got a call from the manager at the tire place today, apparently the lab wants to ask me a question. I took a home test right before I went in and I was negative (passed) so I'm wondering if they found something funny or if my pee was too clear? if you have time please email me if you can, I'm the breadwinner right now and really need this job.
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propoxyphene drug test
i recently went to the clinic for workers comp and took the drug test. doctor called me up and said that i came up posititve for some drug. he asked me if i was on any prescriptions and i told him no. however i have propoxyphene that i take once in awhile, all it does is give me a little wake up so i can get through the rest of the day. nothing like a 5 hour energy drink, those things make me shake and my heart beat to fast. well now i am worried that i could loose my job. should i tell him the truth that i have taken propoxyphene without proper prescription or that i have never taken that drug and would like to re test. i have not taken it in over a week so i know i wont test positive again.
not using amphetamines
I recently took a UA for CPS and on the cup it said it was clean then my case worker called me today and said i failed for amphetamines. She said my level was at 925 out of 1000. I do not use drugs and dont understand whats going on with their test. Now i need to take a hair sample for them and im scared that its going to come back positive again. I have two young girls and i am 7 and a half months pregnant, i am really terrified that they are going to take my kids away from me for something i have not done. What can i do to make sure this doesnt happen? how do i fight this?
Cps
look you need to raise hell with them they did the same thing with me and i demanded a new test because there so called drug test cups have an experation date on them and if there expired they will come up positive every time they are a bunch of non experanced peolpe doing your ua s
if drug war wins!
D.O.T. drug test gone bad
I was called on my day off around 2:10 and was asked to come in at 3 pm and I asked why and she stated she didn't know why just be there she asked if I was working far from the office and I said no I'm at home that's just 5 miles away,I had seen my boss early that day and was told what I needed to do Friday when I came back to work , got to the office at 3 and it was a random test there was no paper work didn't ask for ID nor my SSI card just tell me what your SSI number is,I didn't get to keep my wallet, I got to keep phone ,there was no dye in the toilet no tape on the sink or any of the water supply in the bathroom guys came over from the shop next door and came and sat down and talked then while they left one used the bathroom I was going to be using and it was a 1 person restroom and the collector never went and checked it, used toilet paper piled high in the waste basket,no proof of ID,collection cup left open for over 2 1/2 hours,we left the test area to talk to the girls in the office,people in and out of the test area that were not testing,the safety supervisor wanted to stop the test before my time was up because she was tired of weighting but I had till 6
positive hair folica test in the 4000 for meth with kidney diese
last year myself and my boyfriend were caught useing meth on a one time bases we both had drug test by CPS mine came back as a one time use at 350 and my boyfriend who i have lived with for 9 years came back at 4000 there comment was you should have been dead to him they a also took my stepdaughter and have had her in there coustudy now for almost a year and then we found out why she has been in there care she has diabites childrens type 1 and my boy friend has kidney dieses and i am woundering if that is why he had such a high count or is cps just trying to screw us and not give us our daughter back we have done everything they have asked but i truelly think they are corrupde her in the state of North Dakota!!!!!!!!
False positive
I just got busted for a DOT random that the lab claimed contained 48ng/ml of THCA or "marijuana" using the MRO's (Medical Review Officer) terminology. The only problem is that I don't smoke plain and simple. Now I am out of a job. The MRO refused to consider any false positives. So some lab tech that is testing piss 8 hours a day becomes the deciding factor for your lively-hood. Do they ever make mistakes? How do we know their equipment was clean, calibrated and in good working order? The politicians don't give a fuck about the false positives because there is always someone else to take the shitty trucking job because they screwed up the economy and there is no shortage of desperate workers. I have vowed NEVER to be subjected to an employment related piss test and it is the greatest sense of liberation I have ever felt. JUST SAY NO TO DRUG TESTING.
Many incorrect drug screens
There are many inaccurate test, with many inaccurate interpretaions. A MRO has an ethical obligation to review the case and all available information prior to even making a comment on the case. The MRO should be recused from this case immediately and a new one assigned
What the Heck!!
I take Hydroco/Acetaminop 5-352 and had a urine drug screen which came back positive for morphine very high numbers I do not nor have I ever use morphine or any other un-prescribed medication I take cyclobenzapine fluoxetine, and celebrex all of which are a part of my pain management program I really am upset and dismayed with the false positive or in this case positive reading what the heck is going on? The only other meds I take are for blood pressure and vitamins, and supplements I have not take cold, flu or allergy meds I am in a quandry can any one help?
THEY ARE WRONG!
DEPENDING WHO ACTUALLY READ YOUR RESULTS IT IS MOST LIKELY THEY ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT AND CLUELESS OF THE WHOLE PROCESS. SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PILLS YOU ARE TAKING ARE AN OPIATE AND WHAT THEY ARE TESTING FOR IS AN OPIATE METABOLITE. (MEANING A BREAKDOWN OF OPIATE IN YOUR BODY) MORPHINE, CODEINE, DEMEROL AND EVEN HERION ARE ALL OPIATES THAT WILL ALWAYS SHOW UP THE SAME. THERE IS NO WAY TO SCIENTIFICALLY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM IN A DRUG TEST.
THAT SAID SOME LABS DO A TEST CALLED AN EXTENDED OPIATE PROFILE. AND IN THIS TEST THEY CAN DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE OPIATES EARLIER MENTIONED AND OXYCODONE, PROPOXYPHENE, OR DILAUDID/HYDROMORPHONE. SO AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A VALID PRESCRIPTION YOU HAVE "PASSED" IF WHO EVER YOU ARE DEALING WITH WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS GO TO THE NEXT PERSON UP ON THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. OR CALL THE PRESCRIBING DOCTOR, AND HE/SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EASILY SORT IT OUT.
false positive methadone
I got a false positive for methadone. contacted all my elected officials, consumer protection, the health department... it's one of those things where nobody cares, or does anything about it, though my elected officials were helpful.
What can you do? Making people victims is how society works, or doesn't work, depending on how you look at it.
Oh well, if it comes down to it, I think I will make a happy bum...
DHS Hair drug sample
I got a hair follicle drug sample done April 18, 2013 for me and my child. My child is 6 months old. The test came back for my child with cocaine and thc. My test came back with only cocaine. Me and my child have not been seperated since Feb, 2013 after the court had given her back. They removed her today and I am so confused about this test. There could have been cocaine in her system from birth even though her urine test came back negative. I had to admit to relapsing because there was so much cocaine in my system even though I ended my cocaine use when I was 4 months pregnant. I do not know what to do and I want to know a lot more about this hair test. They say that you can get a hair growth genetic test to know how fast the hair grows. I understand that the hair is tebsted based on hair growing 1/2 inch per month with a variance of .2cm. That test can only be contested by a genetic hair growth test.
I just had a hair drug screen
My 15 yr old son was took by
False Postive Hair drug test for Cocaine
I've been beating my feet looking for a job for a while now, new casino opened up in Baltimore and got hired! I was so excitied. I have no criminal record (which counted many people out of that job) and I don't do drugs, so I wasn't worried at all about a hair follicle drug test. I got a phone call starting that I no longer had a job offer, because my hair sample came back positive for cocaine!! What on God's Green Earth??? I've never in my life touched or even seen cocaine in the flesh. Never in my life have I done any street drug ever. My family and friends were also taken aback and shocked. Everyone knows I don't do drugs and never have in my life. I was so excited to have a job and work at casino. I just can't believe this. Now I'm wondering if a date I had slipped something in my drink or what. I experimented with weed when I was a teen and didn't like it. I believe if I was ever high off cocaine I would definitely know. When I read up on it, it said you would only test positive after multiple uses, so I'm just long and confused. I just wanted to cry. There must be something we can do. This is defamation of character and loss of a badly needed job.
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