Feature: The Conviction That Keeps On Hurting -- Drug Offenders and Federal Benefits

Submitted by Phillip Smith on (Issue #471)
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Some 15 to 20 million people have been arrested on drug charges and subjected to the tender mercies of the criminal justice system in the past two decades. But, thanks to congressional drug warriors, the punishments drug offenders face often extend far beyond the prison walls or the parole officer's office. A number of federal laws ostensibly aimed at reducing drug use block people with drug convictions from gaining access to federal benefits and services. These laws have a disproportionate impact on society's most vulnerable or marginalized members -- the poor, people of color, and women with children -- and in some cases, do not even require that a person actually be convicted of a drug offense to be punished.

[inline:publichousing.jpg align=left caption="No conviction is needed to be evicted from public housing for drugs -- even someone else's."]A growing number of groups and individuals ranging from the American Bar Association to welfare rights organizations, public health and addiction groups, drug reform organizations, and elected officials have called for changes in these laws or their outright repeal, saying they are cruel, inhumane, counterproductive, and amount to "double jeopardy" for drug offenders trying to become productive members of society.

"We feel that these laws are discriminatory and tend to focus on an illness as opposed to a crime," said Alexa Eggleston of the Legal Action Center, one of the key groups in the movement to adjust those laws. "We also think that if you have a conviction, you should be able to serve your time and come out and resume your life. We say we want people to get sober, get treatment, get a job, get housing, but then we set up all these barriers and roadblocks that seem designed to stop them from moving forward. These lifetime bans are very destructive of people's ability to reintegrate into society and move forward with their lives as productive citizens."

"These discriminatory laws represent incredible barriers in terms of people getting on with their lives, which is why they are part of our platform for change," said Pat Taylor, director of Faces and Voices of Recovery, a national alliance of individuals and organizations committed to securing the rights of people with addictions. "If you can't get housing, can't get a job, it's really hard to get your life back on track."

"One of the problems we constantly face is helping people who have been convicted of a drug crime," said Linda Walker of All of Us or None, a California-based initiative organizers prisoners, ex-prisoners, and felons to fight the discrimination they face because of their criminal convictions. "Why do they ask about that on the student loan applications? Why do they face lifetime bans on public housing? These are people did their time, paid their restitution, they've moved on and matured, and now, because of something they did in their twenties, they can't get into senior housing."

Walker knows a bit about the plight of the ex-con. She was convicted not a drug offense, but for a crime committed in an effort to get money to buy drugs. While Walker's status as a non-drug offender means she is not barred from receiving food stamps or public housing, she still wears the scarlet letter of the ex-con. "I currently work for a county office, and each time I go up for a position or promotion, this becomes a problem," she explained. "I've been out of the criminal justice system for 14 years now, but I'm still being told that because of my criminal history I can't be considered for this job or that."

These "double jeopardy" laws have been formulated in the last 20 years as part of the ratcheting-up of the war on drugs and include:

The Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988, under which local housing agencies and others who supervise federally assisted housing have the discretion to deny housing when any household member uses alcohol in a way that interferes with the "health, safety or right to peaceful enjoyment" of the premises by other tenants, illegally uses drugs, or is convicted of drug-related criminal activity. People who are evicted or denied housing under the law are cut off from federal housing assistance for three years.

According to a GAO report on the working of laws designed to deny benefits to drug offenders, some 500 individuals or families were evicted under the act in 13 large public housing agencies GAO surveyed in 2003 and about 1,500 were denied admission by 15 agencies in the same year. The agency reported that public housing agencies nationwide evicted about 9,000 people and denied admission to another 49,000 because of criminal convictions in 2003, with drug convictions consisting of some unknown but significant subset of those. While concrete numbers are hard to come by, it seems clear that tens of thousands of people are adversely affected by laws barring drug offenders from receiving public housing or Section 8 assistance.

Subsequent changes in federal laws and accompanying regulations have enshrined housing authorities' discretion and it was further solidified in a 2002 Supreme Court decision. In that case, the high court upheld an Oakland public housing authorities right to use its discretion to evict 64-year-old long-time tenant Pearlie Rucker, her mentally disabled teenage daughter, two grandchildren, and a great-grandchild after the daughter was caught with cocaine three blocks from the building.

Only one class of drug offender is specifically prohibited from obtaining public housing -- persons who have been convicted of manufacturing methamphetamines. They, along with society's other favorite demonized group, registered sex offenders, are the only groups of offenders singled out for prohibitions.

The 1990 Denial of Federal Benefits Program, which allows state and federal judges to deny drug offenders federal benefits such as grants, contracts, and licenses. According to the GAO, some 600 people a year are affected by this program in the federal courts.

Section 115 of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (more familiarly known as the welfare reform act), under which persons convicted of a state or federal felony offense for selling or using drugs are subject to a lifetime ban on receiving cash assistance and food stamps. Convictions for other crimes, including murder, do not result in the loss of benefits. Section 115 affects an estimated 92,000 women and 135,000 children.

The welfare reform act contains a provision allowing states to opt out, although if they fail to act, the lifetime bans remain in effect. In 14 states where legislators have not acted, drug felons still face the federal ban, even though their sentences may be long-finished and their offenses decades old. But in 36 states, legislators have acted to limit the ban in some fashion, allowing drug offenders to get public assistance if they meet certain conditions, such as participating in drug or alcohol treatment, meeting a waiting period, if their conviction was for possession only, or other conditions.

Public Law 104-121, which blocks access to Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) for people whose primary disability was alcohol or drug dependence. This 1996 law replaced a 1972 SSI "Drug Abuse and Alcoholism" program that allowed people in drug treatment, which was mandatory, to designate a payee to manage benefits to ensure they would not be used to purchase drugs or alcohol. The Social Security Administration estimates that more than 123,000 people lost benefits when this law went into effect, while another 86,000 managed to retain them by virtue of age or by being reclassified into a different primary care disability category.

The 1998 Higher Education Act's (HEA) drug provision (also known as the "Aid Elimination Penalty"), which states that people with drug convictions cannot receive federal financial aid for a period of time determined by the type and number of convictions. This law does not apply to others with convictions, including drunk-driving offenses, violent crimes, or other criminal offenses. Last year, the provision was reformed to limit its applicability to offenses committed while a student is enrolled in college and receiving federal aid. Since the law went into effect in 2000, some 200,000 have been denied student financial aid.

The Hope Scholarship Credit, which allows for income tax deductions for people paying college tuition and fees. The credit allows taxpayers to take up to a $1,000 credit for tuition and additional credits for related expenses. It specifically excludes the credit for students who were convicted of a drug offense during the tax year in question, or their parents paying the bills.

While GAO notes that "thousands of persons were denied postsecondary education benefits, federally assisted housing, or selected licenses and contracts as a result of federal laws that provide for denying benefits to drug offenders," it is low-balling the real figure, which, according to its own numbers, is in the hundreds of thousands. Additionally, the GAO report does not factor in the number of people who simply did not apply for housing, welfare benefits, or student loans because they knew or believed they were ineligible.

"The focus of all of those provisions is punishing people who've made a mistake as opposed to helping people find treatment," said Donovan Kuehn, a spokesman for NAADAC, the Association of Addiction Professionals, the nation's largest grouping of counselors, educators, and health care professionals dealing with addiction issues. "As addiction treatment professionals, we're very hopeful that with a change in leadership in the Congress, we could move toward helping people find personal solutions to their problems as opposed to criminalizing them."

Kraig Selken, a senior studying history at Northern State University in Aberdeen, South Dakota, would like to see that happen. He knows first-hand the sting of the HEA drug provision. After being arrested with a small amount of marijuana, Selken paid his fine and sat through court-ordered drug treatment. He thought he had paid his debt to society. It was not until Selken began reading up on the HEA drug provision after his conviction that he realized his punishment wasn't over. Because of his misdemeanor marijuana conviction, he became ineligible for student financial assistance for two years.

"Ironically, today was fee payment day at school. I had to write my own check instead of paying for it with student loans," Selken told the Chronicle last week. "The lack of access to student loans hit me hard," he said. "Last semester, the only reason I could afford to go to school without loans was because my great-grandmother died and left me a little bit of money. Otherwise, I would not have been able to attend."

Selken said he plans to go on to law school, but even though he will be eligible for financial assistance again, he will still have to pay a price. "I'm still going to have to answer 'yes' on the federal financial aid form and I will have to go through the whole rigamorale of providing documentation to show that I am again eligible."

The HEA drug provision, authored by leading congressional drug warrior Rep. Mark Souder (R-I), may be the first barrier to drug offenders' reintegration to fall. The provision took effect in 2000, but in the face of rising opposition led by the Coalition for Higher Education Act Reform (CHEAR), Souder retreated, and the act was amended last year to count only offenses committed while a student was in school and receiving financial aid. But that move failed to quiet the calls for outright repeal, and with a Democratic majority in the Congress, advocates hope to finally get their way.

"We are very optimistic that this harmful and discriminatory penalty will finally be repealed by this Congress," said Tom Angell, communications director for Students for Sensible Drug Policy, one of the most active groups in the CHEAR coalition.

"There is so much wrong with the HEA drug provision, I hardly know where to begin," said Drug Reform Coordination Network associate director David Guard, CHEAR's coordinator. "The drug provision disproportionately hurts the children of low- and middle-income families -- the very people the HEA is designed to assist -- and it disproportionately affects minorities, who, even though they use drugs at the same rate as whites, are much more likely to be arrested. Students who are forced out of college by losing their financial aid are less likely to come back to school," Guard said. "Let's hope Congress moves to repeal it this year," he said.

The HEA drug provision also hurts students seeking state financial aid. While states are under no obligation to blindly follow the federal financial aid guidelines when it comes to drug offenders, many do so, often merely because it is convenient. In at least one state, Maryland, legislative efforts are under way end the state's reflexive echo of the federal penalty.

There is also a chance of progress this year on the food stamp program, which, as part of the passage of the food bill, will be up for consideration early this year. According to the Food Research and Action Center, the House and Senate Agriculture Committees will soon begin hearings on Title IV of the food bill, which includes food stamps, and the center is preparing the way for renewed discussions on relief for states which have not opted out of the ban.

While it was politically expedient to attempt to further punish some of society's most despised individuals -- drug users and offenders -- serious studies of the impact of these measures have led to calls for their reform or repeal. In 2003, the Join Together coalition, which supports community-based efforts to advance effective alcohol and drug policy, prevention, and treatment, put together a prestigious policy panel, headed by former Baltimore Mayor Kurt Schmoke to examine ways of ending discrimination against drug users.

In its final report, that panel made a number of recommendations. Those included:

  • People with drug convictions but no current drug use should face no obstacles getting student loans, other grants, scholarships, or access to government training programs.
  • Persons with nonviolent drug convictions but no current drug use should not be subject to bans on receiving cash assistance and food stamps.
  • Public housing agencies and providers of Section 8 and other federally assisted housing should use the discretion given to them in the public housing law to help people get treatment, rather than permanently barring them and their families from housing.
  • People who are disabled as a result of their alcohol or other drug disease should be eligible for Social Security Disability Income and Supplemental Security Income.

The American Bar Association has also weighed in against doubly penalizing drug offenders and drug users. In a 2004 resolution, the group adopted recommendations based on those of the Join Together policy panel. Like Join Together, the ABA called for alcoholism and drug addiction to be considered as a chronic treatable disease and public health matter. It also urged that "people seeking treatment or recovery from alcohol or other drug diseases should not be subject to legally imposed bans or other barriers based solely on their addiction. Such bans should be identified and removed."

While a movement to undo federal laws and programs that doubly penalize drug offenders or users is growing and has significant support among some Democratic members of Congress, with the exception of the HEA, little progress has been made in cutting them back, although that could change now that Democrats are in control of the Congress.

For a sense of how previous Republican-led congresses have felt about rethinking these punitive laws and programs, one need only look at the fate of the bill filed by Rep. Bobby Scott (D-VA) and cosponsored by 10 other legislators, including sole Republican Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. That bill, which would have temporarily waived provisions denying federal benefits to drug users or offenders in areas affected by the storm, went nowhere.

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Direct Thought (not verified)

A man convicted of drug charges in 1993 serves 12 years in prison. After his release he embarks on different job searches hr finds a few odd jobs. yet he desires to further educate himself. so that he can become a productive citizen and one day own his own business. Yet do to his crime of drugs he is not allowed to partake in the free help provided by the federal government. Hes turn down more times then the devil trying to get back in heaven. he then struggles to succeed only to fail again . no way to pay bills or provide for his self or family. He resorts back to what he knows will provide help for his family. funny huh keep listening. A man goes to jail for raping an 6 year old girl. hes given 5 years he serves 18 months in jail. After his release he desires to further his education and to get a start up job. After a few job turn downs he strikes big with a job. Then he applies for an grant and receives it to further his education. He does good in school networks a lot reapplies for an federal grant to open a business and gets it. the business he opens up is an mom and pop store. after 2 years hes doing great the kids love him the parents respect him. 9 kids report him saying or touching them in an negative fashion. 10 weeks later 3 of the 9 are missing now 8 of the 9 are missing and their bodies are being recovered with their parents being blame then the 9th one goes missing only to escape with her life after being raped for days on end by this man that everybody loves and respects. The police say they had no way of knowing he would do this. But they knew the first guy would do what ever to provide for his family. he was later caught for drugs again and sentence to 65 years while the rapist was sentence to life without the chance of parole. People wake up, just like guns dont kill people ,people kill people. Ex-Drug dealers and users dont want to go back to prison to provide for their families but they will and 9 times out of 10 the do. Thank you law makers for creating more crime  

Sun, 04/24/2011 - 1:16pm Permalink
CDA (not verified)

I was born with a birth defect that required 13 recontructive surgeries to attempt to fix it.  These surgeries all took place from 6 months to 18 years of age, and by the time I reached 18 years old I was addicted to pain medicine.  Naturally as a young person, I sought out others who were drug users, and soon moved in with a 23 year old friend.  She and I did a lot of drugs, and we always shared.  One night I came home and shared some drugs with her, she shared some drugs with me, and we both went to sleep.  She never woke up again.  I was charged and convicted with drug dealing...a class B felony.  Keep in mind I had just turned 18 years old and was very immature. 

Now I am 28 and almost done with my bachelor's degree.  However, I am growing more and more anxious about how I am going to pay back these student loans...when no one is going to want to hire me with this conviction.  And yes, you CAN get student aide from the government if you have a drug conviction.  You just have to complete a drug rehab program (which I did successfully) and the offense cannot have occured while you were receiving federal funding for school.

I am a mother of 2 children.  I have held the same job for 4 years and have been going to school full time for the past 2 1/2 years.  I am a normal, productive member of society that donates to charity, grows my own garden, and participates in my children's recreational activities (basketball, karate, soccer).  I am not on welfare, never have been, nor do I think I need to be.  Not that there is anything wrong with welfare, but it should only be reserved for those that cannot provide for themselves.  I am ready to start a new, meaningful life in which I can be a role model for my children, be a contributing member of my community, and land a job that I can be proud of.  However, I am a convicted 'drug dealer'.  Now tell me, how do I have the same chance at life as my peers that were not thrown into drug addiction from childhood?  Because I was born to 2 teenage parents who were also drug addicts...does that mean I don't deserve a second chance now that I have taught MYSELF the correct way to live?  Please, someone explain to me how this is reality?

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 4:28pm Permalink
Chad&Sara (not verified)

I need help understanding how to get many forms of federal aid with a felony (marijauna) drug conviction and felony and misdemeanor assaults on my record. I made a lot of mistakes when I was young and now I want to have a family and go to college to get back in the workforce. I currently live in Nebraska and am thinking of moving, but depending on how the programs work, I'm still not sure where I'd have the best chances. I'm on SSI disability and so is my soon to be wife. We need to know if there is a way that we can get section 8 anywhere, pell grants, student loans, hope scholarship credit, cash assistance to families and also food stamps. I've heard that in some states if you take a drug treatment program, you can qualify again. Is this true, how do you find out what type of program is good enough to qualify to be elgible for aid again? Any guidance would be appreciated.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 4:47pm Permalink
starving in th… (not verified)

Just want to say that I have been receiving food benefits since 2000. I received my drug conviction in 2004 and still was receiving benefits. I just recently did my yearly determination and was approved once again.  Then, 2 weeks later I was in receipt of a letter that stated that I was permanently disqualified for food assistance due to the 1996 drug reform act. Oh, are they cutting back because most Michiganders receive some sort of federal or state assistance. No, lets just single out the drug offenders who have felonies.  It doesnt matter that u r a tree jumper a murder welfare frauder etc etc no just the drug offenders who by the way most come by honestly.  It is a disability that each and every day we struggle with.  I know that there are ones that sell their cards to purchase drugs but all in all someone is still receiving food benefits.  I am compelled to steal from stores to be able to eat.  U can only receive food from the food bank once a month and only for 3 days.  Soup kitchens, well how in the hell am I suppose to get there.  I am currently unemployed and in dire search for employment.  I have enuf barriars and enuf struggles finding employment now I will either end up dead or with another conviction for robbery either of someones household or business so that then at that point I can eat and then when locked up I will be fed as well.  Is this the real solution congress Fuck u and ur fridge.

Sat, 08/25/2012 - 12:23am Permalink
Lobster (not verified)

One thing you self righteous judgemental ignorant scumbags didnt think about or consider is the FACT that we werent all born with a silver spoon and golden cup in our hands ... The truth is ,some of us grew up in a disfuctional family,or had no one at all that could teach us the way "normal" society expects a person to (pose)...I use the word pose, because thats what i believe 90% of everyone does especially early in adult life...    we pose as the "upstanding citizen then do what we want behind closed doors , my num of 90% dont mean i believe that everyone commits felonies or that everyone uses alcohol or drugs, but my point is that none of us are perfect                                                                                                                                      ,    Everyone in my opinion has broken a man made law either big or small at some point in their life...most people in my opinion have probably broken many along the path of life but never got caught...and i would be willing to bet that alot of the extremely judgemental hippocrites who commented on this thread were the ones who got away with the most small crimes and did more dirt  behind closed doors than you can imagine ... To me the drug laws especially, in this nation are absurd. The complete structure and design of the laws in place that continue to punish a felon for a life time and designed to kick you when your down...those laws being inforced should be a felony... For alot of people its a ocean of quicksand that was purposely put there to make sure the prisons stay over crowded because for some people like myself, a man that grew up with only my god given concience to guide me on my journey thru adolesance into adulthood.... combine that with a very small drug infested town with no jobs and its the perfect recipe for misery,pain ,depression,and ADDICTION...an addiction that returned me to prison over and over again ,because with these laws in place i cant find steady employment,rent an apartment,or recieve food stamps even if i was starving to death..all the years i spent in prison for possession charges has me $ 90,000 behind on child support...so now that i finally am out of that godforsaken town and doin my best to actually BE the upstanding citizen...these heartless law makers...suspended my drivers licence because of my huge mountain of money im behind on my child support...if thats not taken the steel toe boots straight in the teeth then i dont know what is ....behind on the money they so desperately want to rip from me.... not caring if i eat or have a roof on my head,so whats their brilliant plan...take my licence away...kick me back down...                                                                                                                                                 with that being said..I just have comfort knowing that god will punish those true criminals"THE LAW MAKERS" that premeditated then spun this web of insured and certain defeat for thousands of people who were born into discord ,had no mentors or simply made a bad dicision and ended up with the the disease   of ADDICTION..a disease that will not let go...until jail ...prison....or DEATH!!!                                            Everyone makes mistakes...but the heartless deceivers who place lifelong obstacles in the path of a person struggeling just to live, those are the true criminals and the lord who created us all will handle their fate....

Fri, 03/08/2013 - 10:46am Permalink

My problem is a little different than most that have posted here. I was convicted of Conspiracy in a DEA bust that occurred 32 years ago in 1981. I was 25 years old at the time. I ended up having to serve 4 months in a Federal Prison. My record was sealed and I have been able to vote, sit on jury's, and even be a Guardian to my friends children after she passed away.

I recently got a job at a Professional Guardian Agency. Although my position was administrative phones, paperwork, computer ect...I still needed to pass the high level of background check that is required. On the FBI check they found that I had an FBI number as a result my record was unsealed and I got called into a hearing for the Probate Court, that over sees this area. As a result I am not allowed to go back to my position even though I had been there for 9 months prior to this being revealed. I have since been in contact with at least 4 different lawyers. Until yesterday being told that short of the President of the United States giving me a pardon that I can not return to my job! 

This is how I came upon this site, to see if this terrible scrutiny is affecting other people in the same way that it just did to me. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate your input. I live in South Florida.

 

Thank you

Thu, 06/06/2013 - 7:45pm Permalink
sard (not verified)

Stupid. I have a recent Masters degree and I havent touched drugs since i got caught 7 years ago. That was dropped due to first time drug offenders program. But I also had a petty theft from a couple years before that, which stuck. Yes that theft was stupid, put my family in a lot of stress dealing with court and jail. I was depressed and had a caring family but lot of negativity around me, so i fell into drugs, which is my own fault. Boy, i am glad to be out. after years of trying to find a job and being turned down....i have honestly lost hope..mite as well make money selling drugs, because thats all the government wants people like me doing. Hence, the high rate of repeat offenders. People who arent in our situation will never understand. Until enough people are in the same situation, i dont think theres gonna be any improvement. There are a lot of people in the same situation, just not enought, but the numbers are rising, so hopefully govt will fix it eventually. Maybe not, cuz somehow they probably make more money convicting addicts...iono, play the waiting game some more? Or hit the streets?
Wed, 06/26/2013 - 8:30am Permalink
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 2:01am Permalink
jen (not verified)

My husband served sixteen yrs for manslaughter and cooking of meth. I was wondering if its so lo.g ago that section 8 will allow him on in ca? [email protected]
Mon, 07/14/2014 - 12:59am Permalink
Anonymous32421 (not verified)

Why would only drug offenders with no current drug use be considered? If you are an alcoholic you're fine why are other drugs treated so differently? It really is ridiculous. Making mountains out of molehills.

Tue, 07/15/2014 - 9:49am Permalink
bob smith (not verified)

Accused of of a felony was enough to end my career.

 

spanked my son, because of him stealing and running around all night as a 11 year old.

He wasn't listening, talking, or changing his behaviour.

I was single parenting, worthless problem of an ex-wife.

Paying 99% of all child expenses. Got a token child support payment, the courts would NOT raise.

All her excess money went to her other two children, that she dumped on her 2nd husband.

 

And being charged with a "violent" felony ended a 30 year career.

HR departments just drop your application in the trash or if you are lucky enough to have an interview

call you out or it for a moment and walk you to the door.

 

Now I am suffering from fibromyalgia  that is destroying my ability to do almost everything.

Without good insurance or savings, and no family left.

Without a great girl friend (that I have known for 40 years), I would be homeless.

 

And my son is ? almost 30 yrs old without a college degree (could have on a athletic scholarship)

Did a hitch in the Air Force, wasn't able to re-up, and out with minimal job skills.

 

The ex ? I think she is looking at divorce #4 and taking someone else to the cleaners.

Thu, 02/05/2015 - 5:42am Permalink
Joshua Oliver (not verified)

Honestly, the majority of drug laws will not change in our life time. Its fact... not because of any far right citizens, or because of any CNN coverage, but simply because we are a capitalist nation. The majority of the legal systems money (police, courts, lawyers, stenographers, etc, etc) comes from capturing, convicting, punishing, and imposing fines upon drug offenders, which is by far the crimes most dealt with. That doesn't even take into count the drug testing facilities, drug treatment centers, social workers, jails, prisons, etc, ad naseum, that all reap a heavy profit from drug offenders moving through the system. Many repetitively. For the courts and Lawyers especially as they can and will often collaborate with each other to intimidate (prosecution) or convince (defense council) the offender to take a bargain for a guilty plea, which nets the money without the expense of a trial or multitude of hearings and motions. The government saves billions (yes... that's with a B) on denying aid and resources to the largest subset of its citizens that will apply for most of said resources. It is true that you can get all the justice you can afford, which for the vast majority of the drug offending population is not much. Yes their are many different circumstances, and not every addict is a threat to society, and not every drug dealer is the same. And even though it is a monetarily motivated cycle, a lot could be changed with a case-by-case determination and imposition of what exactly each offender can and can not have access to based on how likely to re-offend, how much of a threat to society they are, and what steps they are taking to change their circumstances, as judged by a court or other agency. Unfortunatly there is simply not enough time in a day or people employed to tackle a burden like that, so the offenders are stacked into fairly black and white catagories and submitted to blanket guidelines of punishment. Right or wrong is not the issue, simple reality is. The fact of the matter is that WE allowed all of this to happen. We are a rebublic, and through our voting choices (or lack of) we elected our representatives, we did not impeach (fire) them when their policies didn't align with the majority, or we simply didn't care to act when it mattered. (Im speaking as a whole, i realise many were not alive a certain historical points,have differing views, etc.) We live in the society we allowed to happen.... either by choice or simple inaction, because obviously the people who voted against these policies, or. Organized against them didn't/don't have the support to stop them. I appreciate the time you took to read this, and i sincerely apologize for my appalling sentence structure. For the record, i am a drug felon.
Wed, 03/04/2015 - 7:05am Permalink
troy (not verified)

i just wanted to tell my story because i have nothing to look forward to anymore. I have always been a hard worker and took pride in everything i did and was recognized for a job well done at every job i had. Because of so called random testing (24 times in a single year) i have lost a job that i was meant to do until i retire but that will never be. I had held a class A license for 20 plus years and operated all types of heavy equipment with not one incident or accident but am now banned for life at obtaining a class a license again. Its been 6 years now and i have been turned down for every job possible because of my past actions. My thing is that yes i was using drugs the entire time and training coworkers to obtain classs A licenses and not until that random test did anyone know that anything was different. Where is the justification for taking the past 25 years of hard work from someone? My life is basically over now and it doesnt really even matter anymore.  i guess i deserved all of this

Tue, 08/11/2015 - 9:44am Permalink
Nunya Bizness (not verified)

Not true! Drug charges have a better chance of being expunged- especially if you had only one. Drug diversion programs and drug courts see to that. I know someone who had a felony drug possession (crystal methamphetimine) at 18- went to drug court- and later had it expunged. This guy was a high school drop out, drug abuser- WELL after his initial arrest/diversion. He got into a head on collision w/ a cop car one New Years night (I know- I was there). He was deemed to be responsible (though that really wasn't the case- the officer ran the light....but who would believe us over him?!). The officer ran the red light- but was able to blame the other guy. That other guy was with me when I was arrested for my felony battery- with serious bodily injury (though there was NO SERIOUS BODILY INJURY). It was later reduced to simple battery during pretrial conference. And even though he was with me, and was my key eye-witness, the police, prosecutor, and public defender didn't question him. I had never been arrested, was a college student, and pursuing a career in Law Enforcement. I was never offered a 'diversion' (that was back in 1987). I applied for, and received California's version of an 'expungement' (1203.4 pc). But that misdemeanor battery kept coming up throughout my life. I wasn't hired for a number of jobs; was fired from a few others. I was, essentially, shelved at 22 years old. My life was over; for all intents and purposes. Going from menial job to menial job. At 43 I decided to get up and do something. I applied for a NSF-STEM Scholarship and received it. I also finished my B.S. in the Natural Sciences. I am now 50; and am still trying. That person I used to know; he's now a Paramedic. Not sure how he did it. But you can't find his felony drug possession anywhere. But that misdemeanor 'pushing match' (and that's all it was) still follows me today. "Fair and equal treatment under the law" MY A$$!! THAT IS A LIE!!! It's all about politics and fear of liability. That is ALL it is! And they don't care who they destroy. 

Mon, 03/06/2017 - 12:18am Permalink
Nunya Bizness (not verified)

In reply to by Nunya Bizness (not verified)

Oh- same state, same time period. His was a felony drug possession; mine was a misdemeanor battery. They were both in California- in the 80's. 

P.S. before you PAY for a 1203.4 pc, KNOW THIS- it's just a way for California to make revenue. It's NOT an expungement. Read the small print. California is absolutely scared to death of potential liability- even if the person is innocent. California doesn't have a problem throwing it's citizens under the bus. The reason they have 'sancuary cities'- so they can keep their cheap labor. That is ALL! California is a 'sleaze pit'. So is Arizona. But Washington state is up there too. 

Mon, 03/06/2017 - 12:26am Permalink

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