A prosecutor in northern Michigan has cleared the police officer who shot and killed a Grayling man as police and Child Protective Services (CPS) employees attempted to seize his three-year-old. The attempted removal of the minor child came after a police officer who came to the scene on a call earlier that same day reported that he smelled marijuana and reported the incident to CPS authorities, who decided the child needed to be removed. The dead man, William Reddie, 32, becomes the 17th person killed in US domestic drug law enforcement operations so far this year.
William Reddie
Reddie's killing took place on February 3, but we only became aware of it when news broke this week that prosecutors had decided that the police officer's use of deadly force in the incident was justified.
According to the Crawford County Avalanche, Grayling police Officer Alan Somero was called to Reddie's apartment for an alleged domestic disturbance. Somero made no arrests, but believed he smelled marijuana and reported it to CPS. Two CPS employees went to Reddie's apartment to check on the situation. They then got a court order to remove Reddie's 3-year-old son, Cameron, and asked police to escort them to the apartment to serve the court order.
The Gaylord Herald-Times, which obtained the CPS removal order, added more detail. It reported that Reddie had been accused of smoking marijuana in front of his son, and that Reddie had become "agitated" and threatened police when confronted by that accusation earlier in the day.
The court order gave the following reason for removing the child: "There are reasonable grounds for this court to remove the child(ren) from the parent... because conditions or surroundings of the child(ren), and is contrary to the welfare of the child(ren) to remain in the home because: It is alleged that the father used marijuana in the home in the presence of the child. In addition, there is concern for the safety of the child due to a domestic disturbance and threats made toward law enforcement by the father."
Returning to the Avalanche's narrative, when police and CPS workers arrived to seize the child, Reddie then reportedly displayed a pocketknife and lunged at them. Crawford County Deputy John Klepadlo shot and killed him. Police had been deploying Tasers, but holstered them and grabbed their guns when Reddie displayed the knife.
Crawford County Sheriff Kirk Wakefield then asked the Michigan State Police to investigate his deputy's use of deadly force. The Michigan Attorney General's Office referred the case to the neighboring Roscommon County Prosecutor's Office. After receiving a report from the State Police, Roscommon County DA Mark Jernigan determined that the use of deadly force was justified and that Klepadlo would not be charged with any crime.
"The deceased was in possession of an edged weapon," Jernigan said. "The deceased pulled a knife and hid it behind his back. At the point where he pulls his hand forward and lunges at the officer, he is in such close proximity, and presents a clear danger of deadly force, the officer is left with no option other than to use deadly force to protect himself, the other officer and the three civilians that were present. The use of deadly force is completely justified and therefore, the homicide was justified."
Toxicology reports, which were included in the final investigation, showed there was no marijuana or alcohol in Reddie's system when he was killed.
Reddie had been seeking permanent custody of his son and was due in court for a hearing on that matter three days after he was killed.
"They took the only thing he ever loved," Reddie's mother, Michelle VanBuren, told the Avalanche after the prosecutor's announcement.
VanBuren said she was baffled by the conduct of authorities, especially since no evidence or alcohol or marijuana use was found. She said she had been in contact with her son throughout that day.
"I was on the phone with my son all day, and that cop was bullying him and harassing him so badly," she said. "Where was protect and serve?" VanBuren asked. "The officers always have to stick together and for them to do this is just totally uncalled for."
VanBuren said the family would continue to fight to ensure that CPS and law enforcement are held accountable for their actions. "They need to be held accountable and they will be held accountable, believe you me," she said.
Reddie's family is not alone in questioning police and CPS actions. "I can't believe they (police) could not subdue Will without killing him, and over what, marijuana," said Joanne Michal, who knew Reddie for half of his life. "Why didn't police just arrest him or cite him for marijuana instead of removing his child?" she told the Herald-Times.
"It is particularly sad that Will was shot to death right in front of his son," Michal continued. "Why not use a Taser? Even if he (Will) had a knife and lunged at police, they didn't have to kill him. Instead of using a Taser, you shoot him in front of his child. It is just totally unjustified. They didn't have to kill him. I think it's very sad that his life was taken during the removal of his son. And the smell of marijuana shouldn't have been a reason for an emergency order. Just a few days before he was killed, Will was visiting, and he was so excited because a hearing was coming up for custody. And it seemed to give him hope of getting permanent custody. His son was everything to him."
Crawford County Clerk Sandra Moore said she also knew Reddie. "It's truly a shame," Moore said. "He was a good guy and very fond of his son. He had been very excited just days before" about gaining permanent custody.
Cameron Reddie is now in foster care. His father's family is seeking visitation rights.
Meanwhile, Deputy Klepadlo, who had been on administrative leave after the shooting, is back on the job.
Not the bullied, but the BULLIES
I disagree with you on one point only-and that is that kids who were bullied become cops who do.
Unlike the Bullies, kids who have been the victim of bullying usually have compassion for others. They know from experience what injustice is.
Bullies, on the other hand, derive sociopathic enjoyment from creating fear and pain in others. Just as priesthood and Boy Scouts are desirable places for pedophiles to hide, so is Law Enforcement for sick, twisted, sociopathic bullies, to predatorially hunt their prey. Make no mistake, the bullied will be there as well-protecting you as best they can, among the sharks of their profession-not an easy task.
Also, the person more likely to have the drive to intimidate, control, and contain his victims is much more likely to accomplish their wannabe a cop wish. Then you have to go through a battery of psychological testing, wherein you need to be found to be able to exercise discretion in whom you will arrest, and in whom you will NOT arrest. If you assert that you are willing to apply the law equally to each and every person, you will be found to be mentally unfit for the job. I know this to be true, as I know people who have NOT become policemen for this very reason.
There are Thin Blue Lines that you do not cross lightly, and there is a Blue Wall of Silence, even to this day. That's why these things are fodder for movie-makers still. Because they are founded in fact.
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Obvious case of murder
Police officers are supposed to be trained on how to handle these types of situations w/o having to use excessive force, i.e. shooting & killing someone, trust me I know... I'm a retired officer over in WI. I grew up in Frederic MI so this story really drew my attention and literally put me in tears. According to the story, they were more easily able to tase him then to shoot him & that's exactly and precisely what should've happened. When they thought he was using marijuana in front of his son that was (according to them) justification for CPS to remove the boy yet a Father being killed in front of his 3 year old baby was somehow justified? BS! This officer needs to be charged with murder and perhaps at the very least, endangerment of a child. On another matter, what is going on with CPS anyways? How are they somehow above the law? How is it that they are able to come into a home & take a child when there is absolutely NO proof of any wrong doing? I've heard of SO many people in northern MI getting their children taken away with no evidence of any wrong doing. Something there smells fishy... I heard of one couple that got their kids taken because of allegations of child abuse. 7 months later they finally went to criminal court and all charges were dropped. CPS had no plans to return the children (whom they placed in foster care vs with a VERY good, loving, well respected family) for another 6 months after all charges had been dropped! They ended up returning them 2 months early only because both their 4yr old son and another foster child claimed the foster dad was sexually abusing them. Anyways, back to the original subject: who's to say these officers weren't attempting to seek revenge or make some type of name for him/themselves & therefore concocted this story? Trust me, there are A LOT of officers out there that are in the field specifically for that purpose and I DESPISE them. There are also many officers out there that are truely in their position to protect and serve. Another question, why is the little guy in foster care now? Why isn't he with family that love & care about him? You'd think after just seeing Daddy murdered ( Yes, murdered, that's obviously what happened here.) the last place he needs to be is with strangers. SCREAM! This tragedy makes me so mad! Reddie family & friends, my thoughts and prayers are with you. May justice be served.
I've been thinking and
I've been thinking and thinking trying to figure out why in the hell they'd have that poor little boy in foster care vs with family. Also Ive been wondering why they're not allowing visiting rights to the Father's family (The article says; "His father's family is seeking visitation rights" which if they are "seeking" they obviously don't have rights to see him yet.) I think I may have figured it out... they're grooming the boy. As we all know, 3 year olds are extremely impressionable, tell them that the sky is green often enough and they'll begin to believe it.. I'm sure CPS (trying to cover their asses AND whatever their covering up) is attempting to school the little guy on what to say. If he was right there they obviously knew that and will do whatever they need to to get the boy to collaborate their story. If their story is pounded into the son's head enough times by enough people, he'll end up believing it himself and repeating it the way it was told to him. What other reason would they have to keep a traumatized child from the only people in the world that might have a chance at comforting him?
So much better...
So much better for the kid to have his father murdered in front of him than to have allegedly (and falsely accused as the test prove) smoked cannabis in the kid's presence.
I guess if the father had instead been zoned out on Oxycodone that would have been just fine.
This was a tempest in a teapot that the cops are using to justify their murder of a US citizen.
Wow There's A Lot of Experts on Here!
First off if you are on here posting that pocket knives aren't dangerous you are as far as self defense goes uneducated and you need to go do your homework before you post because you are just making yourself look like an ass! It has been proven that knives even pocket knives are more dangerous than a gun and here's why:
As for all you lovely people attacking the cop who did what he had to, to go home that night. I know him. He's not the type of person to go around looking for opportunity's to shoot someone. I trust Deputy Klepadlo with my life. I did before this incident and I do now because I know what kind of character he has. You think that decision was easy for him? I guarantee it wasn't and oh by the way the kid wasn't in the room, he was in the house. How much less traumatic do you honestly think his dad killing a cop and going to prison for it would be for him? That child was going to be traumatized by his father's actions no matter what the outcome ended up being! But it was his father who made the decision to pull that knife and lunge at the cops, not the cops decision! The only decision Klepadlo made was to go home that night and thank God he did unharmed!
You can't believe everything the news tells you. I've had the TV tell me I was out fighting a structure fire that was a complete loss while I was already through the shower sitting in the recliner eating my dinner and only two rooms in the entire two story house had been damaged! And it wasn't the first or last time the facts were incorrect. Reporters aren't perfect and they have to work with limited information that most of the time when they get a fact in the story wrong does not require a retraction.
thank you
"As for all you lovely people attacking the cop who did what he had to, to go home that night. I know him."
Thank you for proving your entire screed was nothing but biased propaganda to try and aid in the cover-up of your friend's murderous act.
Duly noted.
And one more biased opinion is heard...oh boy
And yet, despite all of your assertions, this innocent, and wrongly accused father IS akin to being Jackie Chan or Steven Seagal! I call BS on your ass.
All of your statistics that you quote are backed up by exactly WHAT study? WHAT research?
I certainly would expect you to be able to reference those by name, at least, and link them at best. Let's see who funded your little studies, shall we? Because IF you come at me with POCKET KNIFE, you'd BETTER be Steven Seagal, or your not going to cut me. While you're focused on cutting me, with the knife that you have displayed and given up the element of surprise on, my fist, my foot, my nightclub, and my taser are going to find YOU. And while I'm doing that, I guess my pussy partner is jacking off...which is okay, because with a POCKET KNIFE? I've got. But thanks anyway. Oh, and before you talk more shit, I'm former USAR, and Artillery. So don't try to bullshit me about what I don't know, or haven't done, please and thank you.
As far as the kid not being in the room, but being in the house goes? Your point would be WHAT? That it is less traumatic for a 3 year old to hear conflict, fighting, and gunshots in his home, calling for his father who does not answer, than being in a room where, SCIENTIFICALLY, no pot was smoked in front of him? By a man who had smoked NO pot? You know the CHARACTER of the shooting officer? BFD. We know some of those CHARACTERS as well, buddy-and what they might do for you is one thing, what they might do for each other is another, and LAST ON THE LIST? What they might do for your average Joe is even ANOTHER thing entirely. Even among average citizens, what one might do for ones' own brother is not necessarily what they might do for someone else! It is a select few of us who will lay themselves, their lives, and their livelihood on the line for anyone who needs them to.
All of the allegations put forth about this man are unproven, up to and including his possession of, and attack with, a POCKET KNIFE. What IS proven is that he had NO THC IN HIS SYSTEM AT THE TIME OF HIS DEATH. PERIOD.
And just one more thing...
If this were the citizen shooting the cop under the same circumstances, or the cop shooting a cop under the same circumstance? THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ARREST AND A TRIAL. If a LAWYER were involved? Their asses would have SWUNG.
So don't tell me about your angelic and picture perfect COPS. There are enough of them out there destroying other peoples lives EVERY DAY. If this one is dirty? I don't give two shits about his conscience, or whether he went home that night-except that I hope his conscience burn and haunts him, and that he burns in hell.
Very tragic for both the
Very tragic for both the family of the victim and police.. This is not a shock, the lack of knowledge and resources in this small town in Michigan, were Bernie Fife works will prove itself later to come, unfortunately the fictitious case presented to the judge to obtain the warrant will prove the dishonesty nature of the tragic events that followed. My point don't lie to a judge to get a warrant and karma won't nip you.
You are all stupid
So...Here I am dead...because I pulled a knife on the police...Stupid decsion I guess because I am dead. I abused many people including my son. I smoked marijuana, I assaulted people and I attacked a police officer because of all option I had...like not pulling a knife, listening to orders, obeying police officers commands and doing this the right way all seemed so stupid. So instead I pulled a knife, lunged at police and am now no longer. So the moral to the story is...dont smoke weed, dont abuse people, dont put your kid in harms way and listen to the police....peace out.
yeah...
Yup, we citizens need to be taught our place and that it is unreasonable to expect the legal system to recognize and not violate our civil and constitutional rights.
Welcome to the Fascist Police States of Amerika.
Seig HEIL!
As was proven, I DID NOT
As was proven, I DID NOT smoke POT, and there was NONE in my system. Which means, frankly, that any accusations that I pulled a knife, while defending myself from an illegally obtained warrant, produced to illegally kidnap my child, are suspect and REFUTABLE.
But yes, I did make a bad choice-and that was not getting the hell out of there, and going to a safe place before they KILLED me in cold blood, after they SUPPOSEDLY smelled an "odor of marijuana" in an apartment building...where they never found any marijuana, or any evidence of marijuana.
But, yep...I'm dead-and dead men tell no tales. BUT THE AUTOPSY DID, DIDN'T IT, SPORT?????
So, weigh your options and choices carefully when you are being bullied and badgered by a corrupt system trying to effect the kidnapping of your child under FALSE pretenses-and GET THE HELL OUT OF TOWN. It's better to be tried by twelve, than carried by six! Or killed by "A Bunch Of Idiots". (Most likely LEO's)
The cops are the one who put
The cops are the one who put the kid in harms way. No force was initiated until the cops tried to kidnap the guys kid.
If you think otherwise you are a...
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Do you feel safer?
Just remember, all a cop has to do, is say you pulled a pocket knife on them, and they can kill you.
Do you feel safer?
If you believe that, I have a bridge in Manhattan I'd like to sell you.
O'Bummer is right...and I voted for my own oppression I guess...he was supposed to be so cool...right...
I Feel Safe Around The Deputy Involved
Sorry but with all the experts that are on here how many of you actually know the deputy involved in the shooting? Because I do and I'd trust him with my life any day and I do not say that about all cops. There's good cops and bad cops, he's one of the good ones. He doesn't show up to calls hoping to shoot someone, or beat them up, or any of that other crap you all would love to fling. For him to make the decision he did I can guarantee there was a knife and that he was certain his life was in danger. He wouldn't pull his gun if his life weren't in danger. So judge him all you want, but unless you know him and have worked with him on emergency scenes (I'm in EMS) you're nothing but a pawn played by the anti-government sentimentalists who have nothing better to do with their time but find fault in everyone else's life to draw attention away from the fault in their own.
And I am afraid for you
Because it makes no difference whether you know him, or trust him, or not. Why? Because he was on the job for a corrupt organization that illegally obtained a warrant to kidnap a mans child; and in effecting that warrant, a citizen proven to be innocent of those allegations was shot and killed trying to prevent an injustice from being done to he and his son. From trying to prevent his son from being traumatized by being ripped from his home, placed with stranger, under God only knows what level of care and protection.
So, even IF the deputies actions WERE justified (as if they could be), and even IF this shooting was clean-it was all based on bullshit and lies. So where, exactly, is the justice in THAT? Your lovely friend and deputy is complicit in aiding and abetting a crime against this man and his child, whether or not he knew it, intended it, or liked it. My guess? If he knew it was all dirty in the first place, he would have followed the same course of action-and no matter what this man did, he would be without his son, and his son would be without his father...and very likely, his father would be just as dead.
sounds like Mom may have made
sounds like Mom may have made the pot accusation,
NOT ALL CPS ACCUSATIONS ARE TRUE!
Just because CPS says something, doesn't make it a fact or anything close to the truth.
In fact, I have documented many CPS abuses when I became sick with my son, and applied for assistance, and school to go to grant writing classes. They came to my home, and claimed they smelled marijuana, and saw a hand rolled marijuana cigarette on my counter. I often clear my home with dried sage smoke, and tobacco hand rolled is not marijuana. However, that's what they said. No drug test, they didn't confiscate, nor did they call the cops when they found it. However, they can make anything up, and take your kid to get you tied into the court system. Fight till death, and they'll take your kid then too. Criticize them, they'll investigate you forever.
And yet....
And yet in many cases where children are in actual danger nothing is done. Case in point, I went through years of emotional and physical abuse, and still watch as my younger siblings endure the same, but since we have no "proof" nothing will get done. I've called every authority I can think of and still, my little sister lives will a vile bi-polar drunk.
The authorities need to get their priorities straight. Now instead of having a dad who occasionally may or may not smoke a little pot, that three year old will have to live with the trauma of watching his dad shot, for reasons he won't understand for years, if ever.
Did they not stop to think
Did they not stop to think that this man lives in an apartment, and that depending on the quality of the construction, certain smells can drift from unit to unit? I have a downstairs neighbor whom I've never met, yet I know without a doubt smokes pot because I can smell it in my own apartment.
As for everything else this article discusses, all I can say is this: they may have smelled pot, but I smell a lot of bullshit.
I know exactly what happened
I know exactly what happened-
He and his ex-wife are embroiled in a custody battle - notice the expert reporting/editing of the article NOT mentioning the ex-wife at all.
The CPS people get an "anonymous" call (yeah right - was the ex wife or her mother) that he is using drugs in front of the child.
The Neo-Gestapo i.e. our police are summoned to support the other Neo-Gestapo i.e. the CPS to confiscate child - WITHOUT TRIAL SOLELY ON CHARGES OF "MARIJUANA".
"Our" police force goes over there with the typical attitude of most American cops "I AM the law" - when confronted by a father not wanting to give up his son (can you imagine that?) they kill him.
Police falsify reports of a knife. Are there any non-police or non-government workers there?
NO - there are only police witnesses and CPS "witnesses" i.e. we will NEVER know the truth.
These are the workings of a police state - WAKE UP PEOPLE! The US is a police state already!
California is even WORSE! Your child does not belong to you! He/she belongs to the government and any number of meddling therapists,mediators,judges,cops, counsellors.
A very sad indicator of the what our country has become.
There are so many examples of this in the US from coast to coast -
In California last year a couple were awarded over 1m (later reduced to 300k because of budget constraints!) because of WRONGFULL REMOVAL of the child.
Remember a couple of years ago in Florida(?)(not sure but East coast it was) the boy named Adolf Hitler got removed from his family too. They had no justification except his parents choice of name. That is not justification in my book- that is called GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE! Someone had a problem with it and as usual under the ruse of "safety" child must be removed.
SAD SICK AMERICA/NS
children services in ohio
in ohio you can beat yur child all you want, but just have pot in the home and childrens services will pull them out so quick ur head'll spin.
Uncalled For!!
Land of the Free
America, land of the free; where if someone decided to tell the cops you "smell like pot," the police will take your child, and if you protest, they will murder you.
All over a little green plant that has never harmed anyone. For shame.
OMG This is an outrage
I just read the story and can't believe my eyes. Ok how can CPS get a order to remove a child on a cop saying they smelled marijuana??? Didn't they have to drug test him first, and then find their findings, has to be true, then go in front of a judge to ask for removal. So they're removing kids on suspicion? Second he didn't even have what the cops said he had in his system. And the cops had tasers and choose their guns? ERRRRRRrrrrrr this is America, So what if he smelled like weed, now prove he used it before you go and take people's kids, and for weed, come on it's not Crack. Isn't weed legal in Michigan Anyways, don't they have the medical marijuana card system....I need to say that the cops started all this, and I hope they're happy with themselves when they're burning for eternity. Where's the justice America,,,, the cops, CPS, and the Judge that issued the removal are all wrong. Even Stevie Wonder can see that this is an outrage of massive proportions...Dirty Cops win this one, but that means they're back at work waiting to do this to someone else...
What's Really Wrong In This Country
I'm sorry but after reading the last few posts I'm ashamed to call myself an American if it means being put in the same category as the likes of you people. SERIOUSLY!!! Let me tell you something about cops:
1. Every job duty requires them to piss someone off and they know this. No matter what they do if they're doing their jobs someone is going to be upset.Even when they're playing the protector you think that criminal likes them when they arrest the person? Doubt you could handle that kind of pressure!
2. They see absolutely horrific things and the worst in mankind, yet they get up every morning to go to work and fight for it. The things they see you couldn't handle I can fricking guarantee it unless you're an emergency worker. Even the ER see cleaned up versions of what they see!
3. They're berated and called names just because of the uniform they wear. How'd you like to be called some of the names you people call cops? You wouldn't like it would you?
4. People who don't know them from a whole in the wall believe the absolute worst in them even when they as an individual are some of what's best about this country!
5. If you defend yourself that's ok, but if a cop does it, it's a murder and there's a cover up and the cop should have pulled a taser (only a retard would say that when a gun or knife are involved by the way) when you yourself would piss your pants if you had, had to face that attack the cop did and walked away from.
YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!
You have no idea what really occured on that scene! You don't know the deputy involved or what really happened! You're making snap judgements based on your own personal biases and beliefs that you should be able to fry your brains all you want without anyone saying a word about it. The cops were called originally for a domestic, not pot! Learn to read every word and not just the parts you want to in the news article! Oh and attempting to post the address of the deputy should constitute assault whether the address is correct or not the person who posted that should rot in a jail cell for attempting to endanger the deputy and his family, regardless of if the address is correct.
really???
were you there??do you believe everything your told? what world do you live in? it sure isnt this one or you dont go out much. police brutality is wide spread there are good cops but very few. the love there power! they are gods with badges. they answer to no one, if you look on the internet you will see the brutality you wont find it on the new its censored to death soon the net too. the brutality was shown on the eveing news in the 60 -70s blacks women students peaceful protesters all got beat for the 6 oclock news...its still happining now open your eyes it my be your son or daughter that gets there scull split because your standing in the wrong spot...think about it pull your head out of your ars look around and see for yourself take off your rose colored glasses...99%
He's one of them, Mike
He doesn't give two shits about you or I, or about that innocent father who was gunned down over a trumped up warrant-because he is one of them. Funny thing is, he just thinks he is, because they would burn him as fast as the next guy, if their boss told them to! He just wants to cry, call names, and piss himself, because you want him to admit to a reality that he refuses to see.
AnonymousMIKE
9Remember that if you ever have to use self defense, you're a murderer and since the public will ever really know what happened you're guilty before proven innocent. Wanna talk about scumbags look in the frickin mirror dude. You know how I know there was a knife? Because I know that cop! Not all cops are good and they sure as shit aren't all bad either. Wanna talk about pulling someone's head out of their ass? It's just as easy for me to get on here and say that everyone attacking the cops are nothing but a bunch of no good, welfare collecting, bottom feeding, scum sucking, brain frying criminals! How's that for a generalization? Grow the "F" up dude! You dont know the cop, you have no clue what kind of person that Deputy is and I work in Emergency Services with him. I've actually seen how he deals with people, including criminals so I would actually know if he was the type to "say" there was a knife or any of the other childish, nothing better to do bullshit, Conspiracy Theorists claim he did. YOU WEREN'T THERE EITHER HELLO????? Who died and made you the judge, prosecutor or for that matter God. By the way last time I checked there was one and no one on this sight is He!
Oh and this isn't the 60-70's the only people oppressing people of color is the people of color themselves. Sorry but you lost that card when President Obama got into office. War's over, you weren't a slave, you don't have to give your seat up to the white man on the bus anymore so quit discriminating against others and using race as an excuse for it. Obviously doing so didn't do much for white people except cause a whole lot of trouble (including countless lives lost on both sides) that wasn't worth it. Oh and as for my son or daughter... No child of mine would be raised to stand in the wrong spot. It's called teaching common sense, dont pull weapons on cops, dont participate in riots, dont cause trouble, etc. I realise this is a HUGE concept for people nowadays, but if you're parenting your kids and involved in their lives generally speaking the only trouble they get into is the typical dumb kid stuff. You should know where your kids are at, who they hang out with and be involved enough to do something about it if they're headed for trouble.
Oh and by the way my job requires me not to have rose colored glasses. When you work in emergency services you dont have to be a cop to see humanity on a regular basis at their worst. *Points to your posts* Case and point.
mike
Mike you don't know nobody, not even your own mother, only God knows, you do good to know your own self, and in most cases you don't even know your own self, because all it takes is a little stress, or deprivation, and your whole world will change, you will become a person you have never known, the dark side.
They killed this man, they
They killed this man, they are murderers and kidnappers PERIOD. Stop trying to manipulate people into thinking this is at all OK.
Side Note
So no one tries turning that around into a racist statement that I made... The point I was making was you shouldn't bring a part of history that inflammatory into a conversation when that part of history is over and done with. Martin Luther King was one of my childhood hero's because he stood up for what was right even when it was evident doing so was putting him and his family in danger. Using that on a subject like this disrespects the sacrifices those peaceful protesters made to ensure that future generations would be treated equally. We've come a long way from the 60's-70's who are you to spit on and disrespect centuries of other people's hard work by using it in a perverse manner over an argument that at the end of the day makes no major change in the world and not only that isn't going to change the facts.
John was cleared because he did what he had to to go home that night and if someone pulled a knife on me and I had the choice between a taser and a gun, I'd make the same choice! Reddie forced him to make a choice and Reddie lost because he fought his battle the wrong way. You dont pull a knife on anyone carrying a gun unless you expect to get shot and if they dont shoot you, shame on them for not defending themselves and their families right to see them come home alive!
Police Brutality
This is not isolated. This is exactly the same situation I encountered regarding "Domestic Incident" reports and calls, and it has happened to almost every family I know. Police use these words to violate our rights too often, and now they take lives with it. I hope this killer feels guilty for the rest of his life, which he does not deserve to live. And he keeps his badge?? Sick. Disgust, shame, and rage. That's all I can say.
Isn't it wonderful that murder is no longer a crime?
All these people with special exceptions to criminal law.
CPS can say anything they want to steal your child.
Object to it and you'll get shot .. in a justified way.
Can you keep such people from kidnapping your child? No you can't.
Citizens have zero ability to protect their children from kidnapping by the state.
And every official has every other officials back. They would have their back for any crime that is being committed.
How do the citizens of Michigan protect themselves from an out of control local government?
In a word?
VIDEO
Unreal .. It seems like a movie from the 1950s
Warning us what it will be like if the commies take over ..
NONE of the officers posting here comment about the expectation of being able to raise our children in our homes without fear of them being taken from us.
There was no real due process here. Just a flip, unproven, statement is all that was required to steal this child.
Police officers were there. They SHOULD have been there to protect the child and their parent from a government that has become abusive.
In the United States, no parent should have to fear a lack of justice to produce the result of their child being removed .. on pure whim ..
The enforcement of whim should have officers ready to puke. Who are these pencil pushers that can take our kids from us?
HOW DO YOU STOP AN ABUSIVE GOVERNMENT? Our founding fathers figured it out. They wrote that it is our patriotic duty to object.
Why do those who are sworn to protect us fail to object? Instead they post here that this abuse is proper to use against a citizen of this land.
Isn't Medical pot legal in Michigan?
If it is, how can a marijuana smell be cause for any legal action?
Police are an occupying army
In the last 20 years officer safety is the only thing that matters. I grew up watching Joe Friday and many more like talk suspects into custody. Now its twitch and you die. And police get a few days paid leave.
This incident shows why people no longer trust police. They have become the occupying army of today.
Jim
Absolutely!
I could not agree more!
seriously
"someone" smelt marijuana so the authorities decided the child needed to be taken?
justice shall prevail
God, our heavenly Father will make the United States pay for their crimes, Justice shall prevail, fill your cup up with injustice, and justice shall follow, for Justice will wait till the cup is fill, and then will rain down her rage, for no seed that is planted goes unnoticed, it shall spring forth and bear fruit.
SHAMEFUL behavior by the DA,
SHAMEFUL behavior by the DA, CPS, and police. It is beyond words the pain they have caused an innocent family. I hope they never sleep another peaceful night; I hope they burn in hell. THEY are the evil in this world. Shame on your souls.
Anotherday at the office
ACAB
criminals....the court system is corrupt..
This makes me sick..the corruption has to end..why i ask doesnt the president stop this? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I do not think any illegal
I do not think any illegal substances that can be ingested second hand should be around children. I am sure the pot heads and Marijuana supporters are going to yell "conspiracy" or "System failure" or "Framed". but the fact still remains, Illegal practices in front of children is immoral. I am not anti Weed, but I am a believer that used out of its medicinal context, it is a useless substance that destroys intellect and common sense. CPS should not have gotten involved, but they should have fined the daylights out of the guy to stop this irrational behavior. The child should not suffer for the actions of the parent.
Look at the situation
Realistically speaking this man was set up by his ex significant other, they made an allegation of him smoking marijuana in front of his child, the police do not simply make that assumption from merely smelling marijuana at a scene, I would say that the use of lethal force by a trained police officer in close proximity with tasers already drawn seems a bit odd to me, you are telling me that they had enough time to holster their taser and then pull their gun to use lethal force on this guy, the entire situation does not sound right, especially in a small town like that, odds are the cop had some sort of connection with this guys ex and that is why he overeacted and felt like he could pull the knife, in a moment of extreme helplessness this man made a rash decision that should have gotten his butt kicked and tased not shot.
It doesn't matter if he was
It doesn't matter if he was set up.
The laws are only in place to protect corporate interest and so they can take advantage of people by extorting money from them and locking them up in a highly profitable prison system (that taxpayers foot the bill for and then some).
I know some people would stand there and cry while their children got taken from them, but that;s why America is so scary right now- nobody stands up for anything. I hope people wake up to what is going on in our country, because it is turning V for Vendetta quick.
They sent stormtroopers to
They sent stormtroopers to seize his child because someone smelled cannabis, and they gunned him down?!
This is a war crime, a crime of occupation. Demand the removal all laws containing the word "marijuana". This is fascist insanity. I will not forgive society when those stormtroopers are found not guilty of wrongdoing. He is a martyr now-an innocent victim whose death must not ever ever be forgiven, never explained away as a misunderstanding. That conservative person who just had to have police come and seize that child because they smoked pot, that person's intent counts as accessory to murder to me.
I want the tables turned. I want those who believe in Prohibition to fill our prisons while we pass laws enabling us to raid and seize their houses-in the name of defending our civil rights.
So sad
If the family ever reads this, I'm so sorry for your loss. I am sure this will help motivate people to action which has long been needed in America.
Illegal or not, marijuana does not justify taking a child's parents away, There are already too many kids growing up with alcoholic/pill-popping parents or parents that don't care for anyone to even try and say marijuana makes you a bad parent (it doesn't). This is outright oppression; no man should have that kind of power over another, especially to wield it blatantly and hypocritically. There is no justification for this attempted kidnapping and murder on the part of the local government there. it is time for our law enforcement and lawyers to be subject to us, peaceful citizens for a change.
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