Mr Anonymous who are you and why are you posting on this site? I care deeply. The existance of Holland's marijuana policy gave the world hope that rational people can make rational policy somewhere. What do you like to do? I'd like to ban that and arrest you destroy your life, cause I guess I don't care about your rights cause you are not me. People like you should learn to say " there by the grace of God go I". It is not a fashionable statement these days I guess "screw you" fits with our times better but maybe the Obama age will bring us to place of less hatred and more compassion for those who are not us.

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See, one has to understand how rich Amsterdam is, They cater to all those European Casinos and prostitution places for the Rich. Marihuana is not the only drug legal in amsterdam. Every Drug is legal in Amsterdam. I hear the is a Park where the drug Consumer can go and take their stuff with them buy it there heroin cocaine whatever you want legally. They Cater to the Rich they don't want Euro Trash in their Borders. It doesn't please the Euro And Global Rich. and if they get upset it affects the economy of the casinos and they loose customers which means less profits. They are not going to Make Drugs illegal just tough for the European to just go to amsterdam for the Drugs. See they are to keep Tourism Happy, So is Prostitution. These are two recreational stimulants that make the Rich spend more. See its a double standard. Amsterdams Military is insignificant compared to its neighbors. Yet Drugs are legal in Amsterdam, Prostitution is legal and in the rest of Europe Theres the War on Drugs and Moral Religious oppression based on personal choice. My choice to take drugs is not respected by any of these constitutions. Now How come Amsterdams constitution and space is respected by Europe the USA and Canada. Simple the can't cut off aid to Amsterdam because Amsterdam Doesn't get aid and they won't Militarily attack Amsterdam because they are partners.

Now, Mexico's Congress and Senate legalized all Drugs and passed the law last year. Drugs were legal in Mexico for Two Months then The CIA and the DEA and Bush Made the President of Mexico repeal the Law or they would cut off the money for the war on drugs Bill which came into law Constitutionally one of the few things the people of Mexico have asked their local Representatives. The representatives Did their Job and now comes USA to tell us what to do and write our laws for us. Everytime we pass something through congress it get vetoed by the United States. The Warriors of Mexico's EZLN (only militia Recognized by Mexico's people) has Legal Venue to step in and take Command of the functions of the Nation's Security against National and Foreign Agression(USA), Canada, Europe.
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As we all know The People of Mexico Lobbied Congress and Senate of Mexico and was Able to Pass into law for 3 months all Drugs were legal in Mexico then the DEA and CIA stepped in and threatened to cut off military intelligence and weapons aid. So the president repealed the Law. This is a constitutional Violation of the National Rights of the Mexican people by The Us Rewriting The Mexican Constitution to see the needs of the Multinational Corporations(which are leaving anyway to Cut cost, (GoodBye) and the Rich of Mexico which comprises of europeans and Their working Class. There is no way to know how many people are in Mexico because we still have indians which own land as a nation amd haven't been counted. So Drugs are legal De Facto. Freedom of trade. Now, Mexico is going to open up the Market to Amsterdam Europe Where Drugs are legal and buy their seeds and plant them too. It is a matter of time before EZLN Takes its rightful place as the True Militia of Mexico so that all citizens are represented and the Constitution Rewritten to accomodate the issues at hand in Mexico by means of consensus of nations by district to constitutionally execute and carry out the wishes of all as the Economy sees fit.

These is the list of Products that are best sellers in US Canada and Europe

*Mushrooms Psylicibin From Chiapas Sporeprints, Kits, Per Kilo priority Mail To The Nethelands from Mexico.

*Mushrooms from the mountains of Huautla Priority Mail to the Netherlands

*Mushrooms from San Jose del Pacifico Priority Mail to the Netherlands.

*Peyote Available for Free by the picking From Brownsville Texas cross the Border, (Dont worry we won't kill you).into Mexico goto the train Station and buy a ticket to Estacion 14(Station 14) Get off the train and you will be staying in one of our Rooming houses. They cost $3.00 Night. Then in the morning you will see the desert Which is full of Peyote all you have to do is find it. Marihuana is scarce in that area but you can find it if you try. While you are there notice the holes on the ground while you walk through the Peyote Fields, these holes are breathing portals of oil as you know oil is abundant in Mexico. Mexicos oil is National it belongs to the Government. While you are there notice you only paid $3.00 Night and free peyote. Look around do you see any government service of health care or schools or food subsidies to highly escalating 1st World prices? Yet theres oil there. We have enough oil to distribute to the nation and then sell some yet we don't advance. Not only do we have to worry about our government but about the cia the dea Mexican immigration is asking Mexicans for ID The problem with that is that Indegenous people don't have ID As far as the Gov is concerned they are illegal aliens. Not to think about when a mexican crosses the border with or without ID in the US We have racist immigration and DEA patroling US border.But If we are going to talk constitution. The United States Trespassed into Mexico and Annexed Many states(Stole the Land i.e Theft of Property Felonious offense in any Country) Irak annexed Kuwait and the US got upset well The US annexed Part of Mexico who's gonna get our land back?) Lets not Forget the criminal Charges of Who knows how many million counts of Murder, Genocide, Military, economic, and racial oppression. You may argue that this is history and we have to forget because you are nuclear and we have knives. The Mexican Government as is is History and there is nothing you can do about it except adjust like we did when we lost our land and people. We are an Equal Rights Oriented Society. From Argentina to Alaska.We are an equal Rights Society its just that the governments are corrupt.

Alternative Medicine and Recreational Therapeutic Substances Consume at own Risk

Coca Leaf Farmed in Mexico The farmer eat a leaf in the morning to make the day more productive in the fields. Per Kilo Priority Mail to Netherlands Mexico

Cocaine 100% Pure or Cut to specifications by Certified Narcotics Doctors to avoid ODs
Crack(base) Per Kilo (Consume at own risk)
Ice (consume at own Risk)
Khat (consume at own risk)
ecstasy (consume at own Risk)
Methamphetamines (consume at own Risk)
LSD-25 Clean or Speedy Crystal, Liquid or Paper (consume at own Risk)
Mescaline
THC
Morphine Per Kilo (Consume at own Risk)
Opium Per Kilo
Heroin Per Kilo (Consume at Own risk)
Marihuana Acapulco Guerrero Per Kilo
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Just thought you may want to add this info to your files

Dea, Cia, NSA out of Latin America

Hasta La Victoria Siempre Che de Amerikkka

Guettoes Constitutionally Cecede Become cities with your own police force.

A case to look at US Supreme Court vs. Yonkers, NY Charge Racist Segregation of housing and schools Zip codes 10701, 10705, 10702, 10703 are still segregated and no reparations were made for damages, Pain and suffering, Police oppression and harrassment Yonkers is in a state of Marshall Law only in these zip codes. They have streets that are hot spots for drugs according to them so by case law they violate constitutional law by searching you without just cause just because you are black or hispanic or a strung out white they search you line up all the puerto ricans(working people legal illegal) The politicians laugh at these zip codes and profit from them by stealing City Jobs and state and federal housing opportunities for the poor etc. They are thiefs and criminal(The Racist Yonkers Police which criminalizes hispanics and blacks)
The problem is that this case was proven beyond a reasonable doubt and Yonkers was found guilty. Nothing happen Regan died, two bushes went by etc We don't have lawyers and the ACLU is Sold out. It was consensed that the best action to take to cese from Yonkers and Make the City of s. West Yonkers, The South West Yonkers Police(Because we are ruled by Yonkers. We get treated the same way Israel Treats Palestine. This is just a model we can do this with every guetto in america to relieve racial tension and achieve constitutional equality.

Its all about money they are worried about the land they loose that they control politically by writing laws agains blacks and hispanics and enforcing them with foreign Police. This is not your area we have constitutional right to bare arms If the federal Gov Refuses to uphold the Law of the Land Yonkers is getting Over of the Blacks Hispanics and Poor white of the Segregated area in S. West Yonkers. Yonkers POlice out of South West Yonkers.
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You have to understand the geography of the place. Holland is freaking tiny. If the coffee shops are on the outskirts of border towns, it's entirely possible that the vast majority of the drug tourists drive in, buy weed, and drive home again. Depending on where they are coming from it could be like a dude from jersey popping into new york to pick up some weed. Of course the coffee shop owners are probably spending their money within Holland, and pay taxes on their income, so it is a revenue issue. Whether or not the revenue offsets the problems created is however debatable.

The real problem here though is dichotemy between the drug laws in rest of EU vs those in Holland. It really does cause Holland problems.

Man, I understand why everyone posts anonymously here, but don't you think we have to start oppenly showing a little opposition against the drug war if we're going to get anywhere?

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I have a few times. Especially in Amsterdamn, in the red light district, the drug tourism has a negative impact on the citizens quality of life. The scene is awesome, and a lot of fun for tourists, but I can imagine it gets really frustrating for someone living there. I can well imagine that in some small town of 5000 people, having thousands of drug tourists driving (or training) in and out can lead to problems.

Switzerland (where I currently reside) used to have more progressive drug policies, but it also became a drug tourism destination. I used to be able to walk into a shop, select a bag of grass from a rack, put it on my credit card and go home. It was lovely. But as the situation became well known across europe, europeans started driving in to ferry weed into their countries. Now, that activity is illegal. So the people coming in and out to do the purchasing have already been branded by their own countries as criminals. I assume everyone visiting this website is aware that criminalizing drug use creates criminals of drug users. Even if 99% of the drug tourists coming in and out of Holland are respectable citizens (aside from disagreeing with prohibition), that 1% of scammers, bullshit artists, crooks and junkies can overwhelm a small country (or esp. town) and cause noticeable problems.

As long as the drug trade remained discrete, it persisted. But as soon as things got too loud, and the neighbors started complaining, things got shut down. The increasing success of conservative parties in Switzerland had an effect as well, but I think the EU pressure and drug tourism was the dominant factor.

This is actually a big argument in favor of legalization in the U.S. We're huge, which means we can absorb a monstrous amount of drug tourism without noticeably disturbing anyone. We also have a montrously oversized police and criminal system (thanks to the drug wars), so we could redirect all the drug warriors towards keeping the unruly drug tourists in check. Big win for us.

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How many places would you drive to in this country (US), stay at motel and leave your valuables in the car? I, surely, would not do it! Just because you were TOLD that "drug users" pose a problem, you make the assumptions you do!? I know that big hotels in this country also have rooms destroyed by customers who behave more like vandals! Some, of them, being rock bands and their groupies, and such!

People don't OD from cannabis. Bodies in the street? Maybe, that could be any big city in the US!

It is possible your view is biased, for some reason. How would anyone, on here, know? Some, of what you write, reads like propaganda, to me.

a- tourists don't steal, and potheads don't steal either. it is local hard drug users who steal. closing down coffeshops won't change that unless it somehow reduces the amount of local hard drug use.

b- The illegality of big grows in holland allows for a black market in marijuana at the wholesale level, which probably causes some violence (but that is done by residents of holland. maybe foreigners, but residents of holland nevertheless). Legalizing the wholesale could reduce that violence significantly (although much would still remain, as i've heard 80% of the weed in holland is grown for export). closing down coffeshops wouldn't change that one bit.

c- One thing that probably happens is that some people go to the netherlands to use more than just marijuana. Illegal sales of other drugs out in the streets, around the coffeshops, and especially in the red light district, is proabably what causes the social disorder. This really would be improved by closing down the coffeshops (there would be less black market becuause toursists wouldn't be there to buy hard drugs; although locals would still buy hard drugs) .

-closing down all the coffeshops in all of holland (still allowing people to grow their own) would take care of problem c (problems a and b would remain), but it would cause other problems. Many people would not want to go through the trouble of growing their own, so a black market would replace the coffeshops, and black markets are always a huge potential for violence and social disorder.

- total prohibition (inlcuding stiffer penalties for hard drugs) would cause problems for holland because it would drastically worsen the local marijuana black market (as well as, obviously, hurting profoundly the lives of local pot smokers). On the other hand, it would reduce black market in marijuana for export as well as the black market in ecstacy and meth for export (which i hear are big in holland). In other european countries problems would rise as the black markets in other drugs would move there.