McCain and Giuliani Say Terrible Things to a Medical Marijuana Patient
Via MPP, battle lines are being drawn on the campaign trail over medical marijuana. Linda Macia of Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana suffers from nerve damage, fibromyalgia, reflex sympathetic dystrophy and degenerative arthritis. She's allergic to other medications and has only found relief through medical marijuana.
You'd think that anyone hoping to become president would show some compassion for this unfortunate woman, but alas…
Notice how McCain turns his back to her the moment she utters the phrase "medical marijuana." Words could not better describe his position. McCain goes on to claim he's seen no documentation of medical marijuana's effectiveness, even though Granite Staters' Stuart Cooper had personally presented him with sound scientific evidence.
Will she have better luck with Rudy Giuliani? Let's see…
Ouch. Giuliani struggles when she explains that she's allergic to the "other medications" he recommends. He also claims not to have lobbied on behalf of OxyContin, which I guess depends on your definition of "lobbying."
Sometimes we don't get the answers we want. That's what happens when you look to the drug war for answers. But at least we're asking the right questions, and asking them often. Perhaps next time we should ask if they've seen the polling on medical marijuana. Maybe that will get their attention.
PS: Also watch McCain insult a New Hampshire student who asks him about medical marijuana, then apologize to him.
Agreed.
Comment posted by smorgan on Sat, 10/06/2007 - 7:11pmIf you visit this site frequently, you know we agree strongly that OxyContin must be available for the patients that need it. We've been very critical of the DEA's war on pain management doctors.
The point here is that if Giuliani understands that issue, why doesn't he understand this one? Both are helpful drugs that have suffered from their association with recreational use.
Links
Comment posted by M Simon on Sat, 10/06/2007 - 11:54pmScott,
For those of us who blog it would be helpful to provide the YouTube links so we can find the videos easier for posting.
Doubleclick
Comment posted by smorgan on Sun, 10/07/2007 - 12:56pmdoubleclicking a YouTube embed takes you to the source. This works on all sites.
FDA
Comment posted by M Simon on Sun, 10/07/2007 - 12:02amThe FDA like all government regulators has been taken over by the people it regulates.
Take the Interstate Commerce Commission. Established in 1887 to prevent "predatory" pricing in railroad tariffs, it became a price support mechanism for railroads. It was the first regulatory commission. Have we learned our lesson? Are you kidding me?
Every one thinks "This time will be different" - I always think "This time will be worse".
Clinton
Comment posted by M Simon on Sun, 10/07/2007 - 12:06amI remember when Clinton got elected. I thought "finally a pot smoking President, maybe he will do something about the drug war or at least marijuana".
He did something all right. The number of arrests under his administration doubled.
Mitt against MM?
Comment posted by mlang52 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 5:29pmJust another politician who knows more than doctors. Educated in medicine? Where? Scientific research? It is being blocked by the DEA!! Cops and politicians seem to be assuming too much responsiblity in the public's medical care!
Well, at least Ron Paul knows what doctors do!! But, most of the public would leave it to "would be" doctors, like Mitt and his chronies! Things need to change.
Politics has no place in the physician/patient relationship, as far as I see it!
Myth about pain care
Comment posted by mlang52 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 6:01pmMYTH...pain patients all get addicted!
I have had patients who never became "addicted" to anything. Including very strong doses of opiods. The scientific research reveals that true pain patients get addicted rarely, when taking the meds. But, the ignorance about the situation is what keeps the myth going. Yes, you can have physical dependence, where you have withdrawal with immediate cessation of the meds. But, that same pain patient will suffer through it, go back for refills, and start again! It is not addiction. The public has been fed so much crap about addiction that it is being used in instances where it does not apply! Addiction is a psychosocial abnormality with craving for a substance, activity (sex, eating) or anything else that will negatively affect your life, socially and your physical well being. People, who are dependent on opiods, for pain relief, have an improved quality of life. The only social problem is when all of the relatives want to play doctor an/or tell them the pain is all in their heads!
Pain doctors try to keep addicts out of the practice. We are not there to supply them their needs. But, to look at all of the prosecutions by big shot federal prosecutors, one would think that there are a lot of "bad doctors" out there. They look bad after the DEA and federal prosecutors slam their reputation all over the newspapers, confiscate all of their assets, and charge them with a crime that is, at the most , malpractice, not murder!
I am all for anything that would help the chronic pain patient, including a weed, if it will give them relief. It is sad to say that many chronic pain patients are needing to go to the illegal drug market to get their pain treated because politicians and the public, who are not trained in medicine, at all, keep telling doctors how to practice medicine.
And, I watch my wife suffer,almost daily, from one of her many untreated chronic pain problems! Anybody got a cure for endometriosis, IBS, migraine?!?!? The doctors lie and say they do! Like one of my past lady friends, who said she need to have a baby because that would stop the pain. She had a hysterectomy a couple of months after the birth of her daughter, because she was not "cured" by her pregnancy! Sorry, gotta get off my soap box now!
Medicine is already socialized! Just get more educated about addiction and the treatment of chronic intractable pain. What you said is as far from fact, as it can be! But, I did not, really, expect you to know that . Many doctors, also, are not educated enough to understand the situation with the torture of pain patients in our country. and it is directly related to their ignorance in the use and safety of opiods!
You are right on about MM and nausea!! I think it might be useful in irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), myself! But, my wife will have to do something illegal to get it!
work for police?
Comment posted by mlang52 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 6:17pmDon't you know, that the drug war is job security for many police, lawyers, and prison guards?! The end of the drug war would mean they would have to find something else to provide them with a meaningful service to society (or a real job). And it is not surprising to see cops busted every week for transporting drugs into the prison system. If drugs can be bought in prison, how do you propose they be stopped on the street? Drug dealers don't card, either. So, that makes it EASIER for your kids to get drugs than it is for alcohol or cigarettes! The system makes your kids less safe, so far! I say, keep up the drug war. You make it easier for the dealers to meet your kids! Then, they can spend more time with them too. New source of babysitters?!
Highly addictive?
Comment posted by mlang52 on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 2:09pmHow can there be a difference in the quality of the addictiveness of a substance. "Highly addictive" is sort of lame! Codeine and other"minor" narcotics are also addictive. But, how can one be more "highly" addictive than the other. All, can cause dependence. ( which is different than addiction, especially, in a pain patients). But, addiction occurs with the psychosocial abnormalities of patients withr, certain behaviors, including sex, gambling, food, chocolate, alcohol, and cigarettes. Are these "highly" additive? Addiction is a brain disease and the form of the poison has little to do with it. Gram for gram, many new opiods are more potent. That is why it takes a smaller dose to do the job. But, if a person is addicted to ten micrograms of fentanyl, or 100mg of acetyl-morphine, or 300mg of Darvocette!. He is still hooked. The term "highly addictive" is a drug warrior term (and used by some some medical professionals, as well), that does not fit with the facts, any more. It does not consider the potency and the dose used of the "evil drug" that one might happen to be discussing at the time, as to its ability to induce addiction. Any scientific studies available on "highly addictive"? I would love to read them.. Would you consider alcohol "highly addictive"?
Oh, the other great term is "street drug". I heard a person told, once, that Darvon, "a street drug that is highly addictive", was found in her urine. Except, she had taken an old prescription, that was,completely, legal! That is what you get when politics is running the science to try to coerce moral behavior out of people! Darvon a "street drug"? It was a pain prescripton for several years before they marked it with this distinction! I wonder who decided to label it that way?!?










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statistics? facts? nah, let's go with hearsay
Comment posted by The Irina on Sat, 10/06/2007 - 12:36amAh well, if the FDA says, that's all the evidence we need!
sigh..