there is evidence that driving under the influence of cannabis actually IMPROVES driving ability (an episode of Top Gear, for example, suggests this)...also, it has been shown that TIRED drivers are the most dangerous (more dangerous even than drunk drivers)...but there is nothing the "law" can do about that...furthermore, there was a recent report showing that people who take opiates for chronic pain eventually compensate and can drive without being a danger...this is probably also true of cannabis...

I've driven well over 2 million miles the last 4 decades. Some of them at the wheel enjoying a nice working buzz. Never had anything close to an accident or incident aside from the dozen or so deer which have ended up in the grille-work of my various trucks and automobiles. I find myself more critical of my own driving skills and more attune to what is happening around me when I've had a few tokes. My friends agree with this statement. Some smoke and some don't so you can factor personal opinion out of it..

I honestly can't recall one accident from somebody driving wrecked anywhere around here. Wish I could say the same for the drunks who get behind the wheel and murder thousands every year. I'm sure every person reacts in their own way, but most of us old heads know when you shouldn't operate anything more dangerous than a toaster oven when baked. My old buddy Stub once said, "If you can't find your keys in 10 seconds you are too fried to drive."

If you ask yourself this question, "Should I try to do this (pretty much anything that involves power tools, gasoline or fire.) stoned?" And you can't say for certain you can do it safely in 1 second you should wait until later to try. It's always worked for me. I know for a fact since 1964 I've incinerated over 20 lbs of crummy to primo weed. No ill health effect I know of.... Maybe a few bad teeth from brownies and Oreos perhaps....

Be well and stay level.
Uncle Buster, In the Mountains of Northern Pennsylvania

I was cited for a duid while I was sleeping in a Wal-mart parking lot, my wehicle out of gas. The first citation was for the duid, which was determined thru a blood test. Since I had a suspended drivers license (caught driving w/o insurance) I rec'd a 2500.00 fine.
Then I recieved another fine for another 2500.00 for finding cocaine in my blood... this because cocaine is a 'sched. one controlled substance'.
This is how the law enforcement agencies rack up illegal monies using blurred facts of law in rural central pennsylvania.
This occurred in 2004 and I'm continuing to seek a pro bono attorney to represent me, without any luck what-so-ever.

This is BULLSHIT.

I got a DUID for pot when i wasnt even high and passed the sobriety test twice and 3 different breathalizers. my car was searched with nothing to be found except for my friends pot, bong, and medical license which he claimed all of. they then let him go home with all of those in his hands but made him drive back 30 mins later so they could use his weed as evidence when they decided they were going to take me to jail for a forced blood test because i looked like i shouldnt be driving which is amazing since passing a sobriety test twice is alot harder than sitting in a chair and turning a wheel and pushing a gas pedal or brake. now im looking at up to a year suspended license, any ideas on what i should do?

I have 2 DUID arrest within the last 2 months. The first I was caught in a checkpoint and admitted to smoking 3 hours prior to driving. I did not have anything, so they took me for suspicon of driving under the influence. The second time, my friend had some in his cigarette pack and was smoking while I was driving. He told the officer it was his, but the officer said he did not believe him and arrested me. Can anyone give me an idea of what I can expect to happen? Thanks .

Hello everyone I live in PA. I am 2.5 years sober, from alcohol and I recieved a DUID. I was arrested while driving home a drunk friend. We passed through a checkpoint and I was waved through and actually commended by the officer for being a designated driver. So I drop my friend off and have to go back through the checkpoint, I am waved through again, as I pull forward lights go on behind me, I pull over to let the officer pass and guess what he pulls up behind me to my surprise, I roll down the window and he tells me to pull over into the lot where they are giving field tests. I ask why and he says odor, now I passed through this checkpoint twice and was waved through after the officers checked me over. How does a guy in a car like 30+ feet back smell an odor when two guys were right in my face and didn't smell a thing. Long story short they really went through my car, I told them I did not consent to a search...I was told "idiots like you lose their rights when they drive around stoned, you could kill someone. Anyways i got arrested and I gave blood. I have since found out that when they searched my vehicle they found two rolling papers and some stems in a cigarette pack. That's right stems and papers. I broke the law, but the law is ridiculous.I hadn't smoked in over 7 hours. Here's the kicker I thought I knew the laws and I didn't apparently the DUI laws in PA have changed, I quit drinking and didn't pay attention. In PA we have a tier system, 3 tiers the highest being the worst. MJ is an automatic 3rd tier I'm looking at 90 days, 1.5 years no driving and the usual "fund raiser" money. I am self employed, my only employee is me, I own a house I just bought after sobering up and really changing my life. I was feeling the best I ever felt in my life, no alcohol at all zero aip...although I do have some help MJ. I get a craving I puff it's better for ME than alcohol. I have also found out that in PA all they need is 5ng/ml of blood to charge me. Well if you are an everyday smoker you walk around for weeks with that level plus in your brain. So I am being charged at the 2.0 BAC level tier, that's right I stood in a parking lot full of drunk people and got nailed. I was the most coherent person there by far, I watched some guys get cabs take them home. I spent the night in a holding cell, I got strip searched I got the all the attention if you catch me. So basically I turned my life around and worked my ass off to get to my better place, only to have my future taken away from me because of stems and papers that is my crime. My life is destroyed for a while for no reason. They don't test alcohol users two days after they smoke but you and I can get charged at any moment if you are a regular smoker, even if you quit for a bit. I am still trying to figure out if my rights were violated, I mean opening my trunk my glove box etc. I was told as soon as they arrested me i gave all my rights to not be searched. how can I be under arrest if they didn't have bloodwork yet, how can they arrest me for DUID if I have not tested positive? Also an officer pull you over if he smells an odor, that's right an odor. Can anyone prove an odor in court? Why do we have to prove everything and an officer can just say I smelled MJ...ridiculous. I would have been better off driving a unguided missle drunk off my ass. This is America and only in America would they bust a designated driver. So for driving my friend home I lose my life basically. The system is not helping me at all, I will have to pee quite often and MJ was my safety net from alcohol. Can you help a guy stay sober. Good job LEO you ruined another life. Oh BTW I need a lawyer that will fight for me...badly.

I truly nelieve I was pulled over for my long hair and beard I am convinced.

Just one question is it illegal to smoke pot? Is it illegal to drink or be tired? I am not saying which is worse, I am just reading the law, the tired my be just as if not more dangerous then being drunk or stoned, but it is not illegal to be tired. Why is no one up in arms over making the laws tougher on people who drive very tired/fall asleep at the wheel, and drunk driving vs. making the law easier on poeple who are doing do illegal acts? I have driven drunk and am ashamed, I have driven very tired and I know I should not have been on the road. I can easily prevent the drunk driving and it will never happen again, I can also do all I can to not drive distracted or tired. My life and the life of my loved ones it to improtant. If you feel like enjoying any of these acts and driving please wait till I am behind the wheel of my box truck the chances of me living through the accident over you is far greater.

Will people realize that these goons are here because they are too complacent to vote or stand up for the rights that many innocent Americans have died for?

Americans are pathetic and deserve to be slaves. You should be ashamed of what you have allowed this once great nation to become.

When will it all end?

What is the maximum jail time if you are pulled over in PA and arrested for a DUI for weed? and it is your fist offence.

if i was the president or if i become a president i will stop that kind of drugs and gave them a gallon a milk for free so they can test which one is good for them. my mom used to tell me that all the time tht someone buy milk and seel the beer and someone sell milk to buy beer. i dont want to drink and i dont want to destroy myself and other. if you know who sell those marijuana or you know someone who use them PICK UP YOUR PHONE AND CALL 911 OR 941-423-3111.

THANK YOU
NORTH PORT POLICE DRPARTMENT

END THE DRUG WAR. If you smoke a joint today and drive sober a week from now, under a zero tolerance law you would get a DUI for marijuana and be sober. I think this is completely unfair. If you drank a beer today and drove sober two weeks from now you would not get a dui. The low bac dui laws only punish the innocent while the guilty still drive drunk and the marijuana DUI laws are completely unfair.

Can we vote for a smaller government,and a sound money policy; before the zombies, the cowboy cops and the HUGE government thugs take over. Read the USA constitution and listen to Ron Paul.

I Live in Southern California and i drive under the influence of marijuana everyday.yeah omg so shocked,harsh reality.HAHA but dont get mad at me,im merely one of thousands of people who smoke and drive a vehicle,hell I smoke while driving.Ive been pulled over with marijuana 2 times already and once with a bong and was given everything back and sent on my way.haha i love the police down here.Im sorry to all of you idiots who look down apon me because I have a medical licencse because hey ive had spinal surgery and really dont feel like taking opiates, a very addictive substance. Lifes not fair. Im going to smoke and other people are going to smoke, call me ignorent or whatever. Your all just a bunch of uptight close minded people who dont know shit. I love the police,fuck drunk drivers,smoke weed everyday,drive stoned,talk all the shit you want,cause you all know your not going to change shit.Live with it bitches.

The bills been introduced to legalize and tax Marijauna in California. The person above me is right,nothings going to change,for weed smokers its only going to get better,all you other people better prepare yourselves for the "rude awakening"

I grew up in S. California. Before the brown skinned parasite infestation bled it dry and destroyed the nicest place on earth.
Moving to Pa. 10 years ago, I have had more police interactions, then my entire 50 years. 40 in California.
recently a UPS driver was convicted of DUID. For microscopic trace elements of marijuana.
The State, ( here a Commonwealth), admitted the UPS driver was not remotely intoxicated. But the trace element, of weed, was all they needed to convict the UPS driver, of felony DUID, as a motorcyclist pulled in his path. Suffering horrible injuries.

http://www.altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/505431.html?nav=742

I shudder for the young people emerging into this azz backward, tyrannical Nation.
There is no longer any written or practiced Articles of freedom.

Fuck all you HOMOS who hate stoners. We are a growing nation. When it's legal I hope I happen to light up a fatty right in front of you and blow the smoke in your face. Maybe you'll catch a contact buzz and realize you've been a nancy all you life and live a little.

amen to that

Keep in mind that many other drugs — whether they be legal or not, recreational or prescription — affect cognition and motor skills. In fact, 18 percent of deaths caused by motor vehicle accidents are due to drug use (which does not include alcohol). To ride the road to safety, you should avoid operating heavy machinery (cars, tractors, amusement park rides, etc.) until you've checked into the effects of a drug you're taking on your ability to think straight and move smoothly.

don't violate my rights by doing what you just want to do, and please don't have your kids in the car

First marijuana law was that all landowning farmers must grow x amount of hemp per acre they own. That includes Ben Franklin and George Washington. Marijuana was first made illegal because Henry Anslinger was a racist bastard and pot was considered a "Black and Mexican drug." Don't knock it until you try it folks, i'm withholding animosity here but I'm glad to see people will base their animosity on the law. "Its illegal" isn't that good of a reaosn, jaywalking is illegal too. Google search stupid laws... you'll find some really amusing laws for every state, including yours. These laws are still active, just not inforced. One day, after our government stops funding the DEA for its (failed) War On Drugs (damn you nancy reagan!!!) people will realize that pot is a damn plant. Your god created it. Jesus was a stoner.

There's also plenty of people that rely on pot so they can eat each day. Not everybody lives without chronic illnesses...