WOL: Congratulations.
How does it feel to be free?
Dorothy Gaines: I'm
still trying to adjust. I'm doing a lot of thinking. I want
to say how much I owe to the law firm that took on my case -- that's Choate,
Hall & Stewart up in Boston -- and their team, headed by Gregg Shapiro,
Hugh Scott, and Tracy Hubbard. They worked on this for free.
But there were a lot of people involved. Eric Sterling also worked
on my case, and the Drug Policy Foundation really started the ball rolling.
And I worked with FAMM and the November Coalition -- every man and woman
in prison should be members of those two groups. It was a broad effort
and I'm really thankful to everyone. If not for them all, I would
still be there.
WOL: Now what?
Gaines: The hardest
thing is trying to get back on your feet. You get out of prison after
five years, now you don't have anything. I've got to get some financial
support. My plans are to look for work as a counselor at a youth
center. I'd like to do some prevention programs with boys and girls
in high school. Maybe I can help keep some of them from starting
down the wrong path.
WOL: And what about
your family life?
Gaines: It's been real
hard on the kids. I went in March 1995 and they sent me to Danbury
(Connecticut). That's a long way from Mobile. I was in Danbury
Federal Correctional Institute (FCI) for a year, then three years
at Tallahassee FCI, and then last March I went to the federal prison camp
at Marietta (Florida). My son Phillip stopped visiting because he
couldn't stand to have to leave me there. He wouldn't even talk to
me on the cell phone when I was coming home. He said, "Mama, I don't
want to talk to you on a phone anymore." Now he comes up and hugs
me, and it's like a miracle. He spent three years writing letters,
he even wrote one to President Clinton, he was standing on the street corner
holding a sign saying "Let my mother go." But he's had a hard time
in school. I want to get my children back doing well in school.
WOL: Do you plan to
speak out on these issues now that you're free?
Gaines: Oh, yes. If
anybody wants to listen to me, I'm ready to go.
WOL: What most struck
you about prison?
Gaines: To see so many
older people and so many families brought down by this drugs stuff.
And so many of them on hearsay evidence. How can someone who is barely
involved become a "conspirator" and get more time than those who actually
had the drugs? That's what happened to me, and it's happened to a
lot of other people, too. I was sentenced on word of mouth evidence,
I didn't have any drugs. And so many of the other prisoners were
drug prisoners. I met one girl who's been in since she was 17, she
has a 14-year-old son born in prison who has never lived with her.
Then there's the grandmother turned in by her own son so he could cut a
deal. They say they're fighting a war on drugs, but they're getting
people, not drugs.
WOL: What would you
say to the prosecutors who sent you to prison for 20 years?
Gaines: I don't have
any malice in my heart. If I had a hard heart, God would not have
delivered me. Those prosecutors thought they were doing their job.
I will be very careful, though -- I'm going to watch who I date! -- because
I never want to see them again, especially in court.
WOL: What have you
learned from your experience?
Gaines: Heh.
I learned that when you're poor, you don't get the legal defense you need.
Look at all those poor people like me in prison, you don't see too many
rich ones. I couldn't afford a lawyer. If I had those Choate,
Hall & Stewart people at the beginning, I wouldn't even have gone to
prison. And I learned how many people there are like me. Wouldn't
hurt anybody, didn't hurt anybody, and people are spending their lives
behind bars. There's no justice. But I also learned about my
own strength. There are so many people who go to prison and give
up, they say "you can't beat the feds." But I say "fight every day,"
and that's what I did. Every day, I wrote somebody about my case.
Sometimes you get weary, but you never give up. After all, I wasn't
there to learn how to crochet.
WOL: What do you think
of Bill Clinton now?
Gaines: I love the
President and I'd love to meet him. |