False Positives: The Dark Secret of the Drug Testing Regime
The New Scientist has an excellent story on student drug testing which reveals, among other things, that the stupid tests don't even work:
What's more, such tests can flag kids who are "clean" and miss genuine users. A study led by [director of the Adolescent Substance Abuse Program at Children's Hospital Boston, Sharon] Levy and published this month in Pediatrics (DOI: 01.1542/peds.2006-2278) examined recent drug tests of teenagers being treated for substance abuse. Of 710 drug tests performed, 85 gave incorrect results, either because the urine sample was too dilute to interpret properly, or because the test picked up prescription medicines.
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"Drug tests can be very difficult to understand and interpret," says Levy. "There are lots of circumstances under which a kid could be using drugs and not test positive or have a positive test when they are not using drugs."
The tests were wrong 11.9% of the time. That's unbelievable. If 12 students out of 100 are getting bogus results, these tests aren't even close to being useful. And while follow-up tests can sometimes set things straight, consider this:
While the rules for federally funded testing say positive results must be checked by an approved lab, no such rules exist for the approximately 500 schools that are testing without federal grants. "Confirmatory testing adds a lot of cost. I don't think most schools are doing it." Levy says.
So the tests are wrong with frightening regularity, yet many schools don’t even have procedures for following up on positive results. That doesn't mean they aren't doing it, but it certainly raises doubts. Here's just one example of how a false positive test can destroy a student's relationship with their school.
As reformers, I believe we've been remiss in failing to emphasize false positives as a primary argument against student drug testing. It may prove difficult to establish the frequency with which they occur, but one is too many and the victims are highly sympathetic. When innocent non-users are accused and subjected to the stigma of drug use erroneously, all perceived values of the program are cast into doubt. This is an argument that might catch the attention of "clean" kids and proud parents who think they've got nothing to lose here.
Funny Side-note: SSDP's Tom Angell once urine tested himself for fun. Tom's reputation for partying is rather undistinguished, so we were certain he'd come up negative across the board. Instead, he came up positive for amphetamines and barbiturates (isn't that what killed Elvis?).
It was amusing that the test was so completely wrong the first time we ever tried it. But then we got chills thinking about families being torn apart by these fraudulent products. Come to think of it, there's nothing at all funny about any of this.
Methamphetamine
I had a randum drug test today. It came back methamphetamine and amphetamines. They sent it to a lab. I screwed up and let a no longer friend talk me into smoking with her. Im stupid i admitt it and that will never happen again im scared and ashamed of myself . Is there anything i can tell the lab that i have been taking when they call me. I cant afford to lose this job or my reputation.
False positive for amphetamines - how to tell which drug?
I am on the home stretch of beginning my new and much sought after job in the newborn nursery at a local hospital. Last step, drug testing. I knew I'd have opoids as I take a hydrocodone cough syrup when allergies are causing me to cough up a lung and Norco PRN for back pain caused by nerve infringement, degenerative disk disease, scoliosis, and psoriatic arthropathy. I had that covered. I had offered up a med list when I had the test drawn in the hospital lab, but they said they didn't need it.
Of course the test was positive for opoids, and I faxed the page of my drug list from my doctor's office with the two hydrocodone scripts circled. However, I also tested positive for amphetamines. I have not touched an amphetamine in any form since the early 70s. I am 59 years old, short and fat (you can tell I am not a tweaker by just looking at my rotund figure), and I was shocked to the point of nausea by the news she gave me. It was sent off to a different outside lab for more detailed testing. If the results are not back by tomorrow, I can't start my job on the 15th and my offer of employment will be rescinded till and if I can prove my innocence with regard to the amphetamine issue.
Here's the thing. I have two chronic illnesses requriing aggressive immunosuppressive drugs and other drugs to fix what the diseases and the immunosuppressives "break" in my body. I looked up the list of drugs for false positives for amphetamines on a reputable website, UIE College of Pharmacy, so it wouldn't be brushed off as internet bullshit and turns out, I take five of them daily. Five. Bupropion (Wellbutrin) in a very high dose, promethazine (nausea), pseudoephedrine (Sudafed - allergies), Ranitidine (Zantac - allergies), and trazadone (sleep aid for when melatonin drops the ball) I can't see how the lab will be able to tell which one or more of these caused the positive result. I am terrified I will lose this job without cause after I have quit my other job of 29 years and was going to start in less than 4 days. If I miss my opportunity to start the 15th, as they won't even let me attend the employee orientation that is the first day, Monday, if the results aren't back. And my other fear is that with so many drugs in play, can they drill it down in the tests to see that there was no amphetimes involved.
I sent the Employee Health lady who called faxes of my RXs for the two opoids, and a copy of the UIE list with my drugs circled, and a copy of all three pages of my drugs I currently take with all the offending drugs circled. She acted like "so what" when I called her to be sure she got them, so I am doubtful anyone in authority will see them and perhaps let me slide on the orientation on the 15th since I know and provided some proof, thin though it may be, that it IS true I don't abuse amphetamines. I hope.
So how sensitive are these more detailed tests? Can they tell that I have no amphetamine in my pee after all with so much stuff going in every day? She wouldn't tell me what type of testing they are using, but seemed to be very sure they could easily tell if it was or wasn't amphetamines. It was a mortifying experiience on top of it. I could tell by her tone and attitude that she was on the side of my being a drug abuser, at least of the speed I was accused of using. She sounded very contemptuous when I told her that it had to be other drugs I took. And then sent her the paperwork which made her more pissy to me.
METH JAIL AND FALSE POSITIVE
My 9 month old daughter tested positive for cocaine
contaminated urine
I had to take a random drug test for probation. I am not a drug user and never have been.
I took the test and tested positive for methadone and benzopines?
The night before i had sexual intercourse with my boyfriend and i bathed in the morning before going to
my appointment i have a feeling some sperm may have been left inside me. Could this cause a positive result in a drug test if his sperm contained any drugs and then mixed with my urine? I was told it was a very faint amount barely making a positive line. As far as i know he doesnt use these drugs. I am at a loss as to how else i could come up positive when i know i havent taken anything at all besides tylenol for a headache. Also i thought methadone was for drug users trying to recover from heroin.
EVEN THOUGH I WASNT VIOLATED BECAUSE THE PROBATION OFFICER BELIEVED ME AND I OFERED TO TAKE ANOTHER TEST. ITS STILL UNSETTLING AND I AM WORRIED THIS COULD HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE FUTURE?
I AM CLUELESS ON THIS CAN ANYONE HELP ME FIGURE THIS OUT?
fight back against MILLENNIUM LABS
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AND IF YOUR DOCTOR WONT CHANGE LABS TO A LOCAL ONE OR ONE AT ONE OF THE HOSPITALS CLOSE BY OR A UNIVERSITY THEN YOUR DOCTOR IS PROBABLY CORRUPT AS MINE TURNED OUT TO BE BILLING MEDICARE FOR SERVICES NOT RENDERED AND TAMPERING WITH DRUG TESTS TO GET MORE CASH PTS. OR PEOPLE WITH BETTER INSURANCE
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Millenium Laboratories False Positives
Union False positive hair drug test
I thought I was alone and being fooled
HIPPA
Whoever gave your mother access to your records is almost certainly in violation of HIPPA, the Federal medical records laws. If she admitted this in court she did this, and she is involved in the medical field - both she and your doctor's office are in violation of federal law, and it can be a CRIMINAL case. If she in fact admitted this in court, which will be shown in the transcripts, you have an open and shut case.
YOU MUST GET LEGAL COUNSEL. IMMEDIATELY. You should search for a lawyer in your area - zip code should usually work - and HIPPA lawsuit. You can contact your local Bar Association (sort of like a Lawyers union/ethics enforcement in the same place) and find out who they list as specializing in this type of law. You may want to contact your local ACLU, and tell them about this and also can clarify if the court should have taken action when your mother admitted to violating the law to obtain your records. Local judges may be ignorant of Federal Law, so it may not be a conspiracy, just incompetence - never underestimate the power of incompetence. Make a simple outline of what happened and bring it with you, so you have your facts no matter how upset you get.
I had a father like your mother, and let him convince me to give up a full tuition scholarship because my mother was sick. Several years later in the hopital and really, really sick she apologized to me for being too sick to fight with him when he convinced me of this - so I KNOW what you are going through, he could get everyone to feel guilty for his crap. I told her that was silly, and don't worry about it. She was dead three days later.
I had to admit to myself I let him do this to me (though I had been 17 at the time - still, I had to let him do this to me). Several years after my mother's death I severed all ties to him. Thank God - literally - he does not live near me, as one time when a sister told him something another sister (I have three) told me "Dad is saying you've been investigated by CPS". I confronted the other sister, who explained what was actually said and was horrified.
If I had been applying for a job (I had a successful career so this didn't happen) or even going through a divorce, that statement could have been devastating. In fact I had just given an interview for a neighbor's high security clearance application investigation (he was getting a big promotion) as I was in the Federal Government in a low security job, so it really hammered home what my dad could have done. You need to sever all connection to your mother as soon as legally possible, and make clear to all family members that they need to agree not to talk about you to your mother. EVER If they will not, you need to stop talking to them.
That's really harsh, but people like her (or my dad) are master manipulators, and anything said by anyone else will be turned into some back door attack. Plus, by severing all contact, and I mean all - including your address - you will gain some distance from her and make it tougher for her to file false CPS reports. Finally, you need to find someone - family member who will not mind, maybe someone from your son's father's family - designated as legal guardian if you should die, be incapacitated, etc. You can use the family members who gossip to make sure this get's back to your mom. to get her to think twice about trying this crap.
Pursue the HIPPA complaint, and try to get her charged with a felony. Don't delay, as there is a limit to how long she can be charged or sued, and sometimes it can be as short as 1 or 2 years. If she ends up with a felony on her record, she won't look so good if she tries custody games again. Remember one thing - do not compromise with her, she will try to manipulate you and then if it all gets dropped first chance she can get her claws back into your son. Do this for him. Good Luck! BTW - be careful in your relationships.. Having someone like your mom, or my dad, can cause us to make excuses in our head and say someone isn't so bad. If we are saying that - they are that bad, it's just we've been through worse. You deserve better, and so does your son, so remember that if you are letting anyone into your life who is a jerk like that.
P.S. Your food idea may well be true. It's so hard to prove it's almost not worth it, because she'll claim you added it to her food (it's called chain of custody - I spent 20 years being randomly drug tested for my job, never had a problem thankfully and am researching for a family member), . Even under oath. Trust me, they'll always have an excuse how it's your fault. Stay away - as far away as you can get.
HELP!! Im 55years old and
Tested positive for morphine
I am 67 years old and I have severe inflammatory polyarthropathy, degenerative joint disease, fibromyalgia and stage 3 chronic kidney disease. My pain physician, after over 5 years, did a drug test that was positive for morphine. First of all, they waited 6 weeks to tell me this. Secondly, I never used morphine in my life in any form except when I had surgery and was given morphine and even that was rare. I don't know if anyone monitors this board anymore as the article is an old one. My physician summarily discharged me from his practice, saying that I would be "red flagged" with pharmacies (all of my pharmacy records came back as I was taking only what was prescribed by my primary care and pain physician) and that they would no longer see me beginning that very day. I had been on oxycodone, gabapentin, and Flexeril. Also, when I requested to take the test over, I was told "too much time had passed." Yes, because they waited so long to call me. Since then, I have read numerous articles citing reasons for false positives, some being inadequate collection. The articles all said to be sure your name was on the urine cup when you submitted it. Mine was not. Also, there is lab error and though the doctors will not even listen to the facts, the facts are that there is error. And next, my doctor uses the cheapest urine test out there. The gas chromatography is much more specific. Lastly, many OTC medications can cause false positives, one of which is Nyquil and I take that almost every night because I can't sleep. I understand the need to control substances. I was only given 80 oxycodone to last me 6 weeks. I never asked for more medication, never "lost" a prescription, my dog never ate a prescription. In the beginning of our association, my doctor told me he wished all his patients were like me. Well, I wish he was like the doctor I first met when I started with him. After 5 years, it appears that all his compassion just disappeared. What a shame. Now I am left with this false allegation against me and it is in my medical records. This affected me so negatively, I am seeing a psychiatrist about it. You live a good life, a clean life, you raise your family, you work hard, you go to church, you do for others and something like this happens and it seems like it was all for nothing. That might sound dramatic, but right now that is how I feel . I pray for all of you on here that you find resolution and vindication.
I took a drug test on
CAN ANYONE HELP ME??!
WOW!!!! I'm a truck driver
judge hitlet
I recently failed a test for
all I can tell you my friend
False drug hair test
Failed urine
False postive
Ketamine False positive
In the middle of a child contact case, of course i'm apparently a DV perp daily drug user. I expected the allegations from a bitter woman who wants to remain in control of our children's lives. what i did not expect was for the results of my hair strand test to show ive been taking ketamine for the last 6 months. Its bad enough i have to fight false allegations to see my kids now i have an "expert witness evidence" claiming that i have had frequent use of a drug i have never touched.
I'm in court in a few days, now i have to convince the judge that I'm not on ketamine and i need a retest, the process is a joke. I'm in UK but the sample was sent to France to some lab. The lab treats me like I'm in denial and i have gone through every prescription i have had for 12 months trying to make some sense of it. My ex is probably over the moon, I'm here left with a tarnished reputation and vast legal bills.
Going to have a separate lab test sample B, the system here is broken.
FML
query
Hey ! I am thankful for the points , Does someone know where my assistant would be able to obtain a blank TX TDLR 043AB version to complete ?
false positive for
false positive for amphetamines, Because of a prescribtion drug (trazedone) prescribed by the same stupid hopsital that ordered the drug test, now they say i need to to go to rehab, gg.
I was drug tested by American
I'm on a Subutex program for
I tested positive for cocaine
Positive test
UMMMMMMMMMMMM
You guys. I'm 16 and in desperate need of help. I have a urine test coming up today at around 4:30 pm. I haven't done any drugs or drank any alcohol since a month and a half ago. Last test I had it came up positive for depression pills but I don't take them. I'm freaking out and don't know if it'll be positive or not. Is there something that can trigger anything??? HELP
benadryl
diphenhydramine the active ingredient in benadryl and otc sleep aids can come up as anti depressants
False positive?
tested false for opiates
im in a methdone maintenece program. ive been clean (except the prescribed methadone) for 10 years. they say my last test was positive for opiates, 10 years of twice a week ua tests all clean...i havnt relapsed or taken any prescribed meds stronger than ibuprophen and naproxen. the consequenses for this are harsh, any advice for me? anything otc that can cause a false positive?
corruption, pure and simple
Sorry, there are corrupt people in positions of power that are paid to mislabel, misdirect or plain just bullshit the donors. probation.psychologists and cops gang up on people all the time. Going through it now, take two tests that go to different labs for tests.
I'm in a situation where cps
To clarify meant to mention
False Urine Test
I have been seeing my pain management doctor for almost a year. This past June when I saw him for my 2 months appointment. He informed me that my urine test showed up Fentynal and some other kind of anti depressent drug I had never hear of in April's visit.
He also informed me that the pain med he been prescribing me did not show up in my urine test.
I was shocked. I have not taken anything but what he prescribed me for my pain, along with my Vitamin B6 and B12 chewable. I can only think of a couple of things that could have happened. Someone came in behind me and switched my urine to theirs. They sit in a window like on the wall, so the tech and reach in and grab the urine test bottles.
Another thing that could have happened was the tech's got my urine mixed up with someone else's. They do have a tendency to make mistakes. Needless to say I was hurt and upset. I tried to tell my doctor I have not taken anything but what he prescribed, of course he didnt want to listen.He suggested I took a Fentynal from what I may had left over from a surgery. I did not have a Fentynal or any other meds at my home, nor did I have surgery in the past 4 years. I do not have any anti depressents or any Fentynal at my home.
He abruptly left the room and said they would phone me when he received a Bone Density test I had done a couple of weeks earlier and call me.
That was over a month ago. Nobody phoned me. I am so upset and scared to death he has dropped me.
God knows I did not take what he said showed up in my urine test. Nohing like this has happened in almost a year that I have been seeing him. Why now? Why did those drugs show up in my urine, when I know I did not take anything except what he prescribed.
Please, help me. Please tell me why this would happen. I can not function without my pain med. It is the only thing that keeps me alive and moving. I did get some relief from the pain med. Now, I am afraid my doctor will not help me any longer. I was only taking Norco 7.5/325 3 times a day Wasn't very strong, but it did seem to help me.
Now I won't get any more monthly prescriptions. I sent his office an email from their website and have not heard anything, no respose to my email, not phone call, not letter nothing. I asked in email to contact me so I could get appointment to see him. They have not responded.
I am in tears and dont know what to do. I am scared.
Please if you can, please tell me why my urine test turned out the way it did.
Thanks
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Wow this was a powerful
Wow this was a powerful discussion. Thanks for sharing.
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