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Kevin Sabet's Response

The following is Kevin Sabet's response to my recent posts regarding his participation in the Beyond 2008 forum in Vancouver.

Your posts have multiple half-truths and lies that beg major correction. First, while I did say that 80% of the Forum's participants agreed with each other that legalization/regulation was the way to go, I would hardly call this an "observation that the experts are lined up against him" since the so-called experts you referred to were composed almost entirely of the major activists of drug policy "reform." People from organizations like NORML, the ACLU, DPA, multiple cannabis consumers unions, drug user unions, etc. This was not at all a diverse and representative group of people composed of researchers, practitioners, or policy makers. These were well-known voices in the legalization movement, many of which I have debated and discussed drug policy with before.

That is why this Forum was so one-sided and closed-minded. Multiple ad hominem attacks were hurled at me and other colleagues -- attacks deemed unreasonable and unfair by the moderators and hosts of the conference. Rather than focusing on the questions at hand, the Forum served to prop-up people like Jack Cole (who gives new meaning to the term "media seeker") to get on a soap box and rant about legalization. This was unfortunate, because I was hoping for much more civil, less biased dialogue. Also, please check The Province article. I NEVER "heckled" anyone, but rather, as the article reads:

"Cole's message at the conference drew criticism from Dr. Kevin Sabet, a former speechwriter for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, who is now with Project: Sundial (Supporting United Nations Drug Initiatives and Legislation)."

[Note: SUNDIAL is a volunteer effort that came about when NGOs from around the world approached me to form an umbrella group to keep them informed of UN policies and programs.]

Second, I NEVER asked anyone for 50% of the time at this Forum. That would have been unattainable and undesired. I spoke each time I wanted to, and I think the moderators did a pretty good job at making sure that everyone spoke. The entire subject of your second blog is completely wrong! Please correct it as such. That isn't to say that I thought the meeting was pretty one-sided.

Other notable corrections are needed: this was NOT a UN-sponsored forum, even though people claimed this was true. This was a forum sponsored by the Vienna NGO Committee, in order to hopefully give guidance to the CND at the UN. Very different.

I would like to point out that the tone in which I am referred to -- as a belligerent, ignorant, single-minded goof making money off of the "drug war" -- is offensive and distasteful. I worked hard to make sure we had two Forums -- one in Vancouver and one in Florida -- in order to get diverse points of view, even if I didn't agree with the Vancouver recommendations. I worked closely with Vancouver's organizers, and we discussed things in a civil spirit. I came back with contacts from many people whom I hope to open a dialogue with, including Deborah Small of Breaking The Chains, Daniel Wolfe of OSI, and others. To be barraged afterward on your blog is simply unclassy on your part, and it certainly does not serve your cause well. I strive everyday to find common ground with people I disagree with.

I continue to be amazed as to why I would be singled-out in your blog. I simply believe that drug use causes more harm than good, and I have seen the devastating effects of it on families and communities. While I agree that laws should also not cause more harm than good, I also believe that there are simple ways of changing certain aspects of a restrictive policy that does not resort to the pitfalls and uncertainties of full-scaled regulation/legalization. I think we have a difficult time enough dealing with our legal drugs (alcohol and tobacco), and I've been unimpressed with places that have attempted to experiment with quasi-forms of legalization (Platzpitz, The Netherlands, etc.). These are simply my views and my opinions. Why should I be chastised for them?


Sabet

sicntired@mac.com Vancouver,B.C. Canada This guy was the one that claimed the ceding of the meth trade to the Mexican Mafia was a positive effect of the drug war.He also trumpeted money laundering laws as being a positive outcome.The responses to these claims were so easy that I avoided embarrassing the guy by asking him to explain how this was logical?Mr Sabet was the most aggressive person at the meeting I attended and let anyone within earshot hear his rather typical prohibitionist views.Jack Cole was no more prominent than many other speakers and I can only assume Mr.Sabet's vitriol was aimed his way due to the experience and insight from a law enforcement perspective he brought to the table.I'm sure for people like Mr. Sabet,LEAP is their worst nightmare.This guy doesn't debate,he tries to either convert you or out shout you.He was running around trying to give literature to people that told him they had read it before but that had no effect on Sabet.For him to complain about others behaviour exposes his convoluted thinking.He countenanced no dissent and yet accused everyone else of that behavior.You can't win argumentent with a wall.

Sabet is not a debater, he's a button pusher

I have to agree with the above. Sabet sounded like a spoiled little brat who was shocked that people were not all seeing things "his" way.

He also likes to get into technical arguments, like:

"This was NOT a UN-sponsored forum, even though people claimed this was true. This was a forum sponsored by the Vienna NGO Committee, in order to hopefully give guidance to the CND at the UN. Very different." Gee, maybe he might want to tell the city about that. The Mayor of Vancouver's reception greeting sign clearly said "UN VIENNA NGO COMMITTEE."

Sabet is saying that it quacks, but it is not a duck...rather it is a mallard.

Sabet was decent at the meeting - doesn't help us to attack him

I was at the meeting. Sabet was VERY professional and provided good insight, even if I and my colleagues didn't agree with him. Stop attacking him, it only hurts our cause.

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