New Group Seeks to Stop Marijuana Legalization [FEATURE]

The passage of marijuana legalization measures by voters in Colorado and Washington in November has sparked interest in marijuana policy like never before, and now it has sparked the formation of a new group dedicated to fighting a rearguard action to stop legalization from spreading further.

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Patrick Kennedy (bioguide.congress.gov)
The group, Smart Approaches to Marijuana (SAM or Project SAM) has among its "leadership team" liberal former Rhode Island Democratic congressman and self-admitted oxycodone and alcohol addict Patrick Kennedy and conservative commentator David Frum. It also includes professional neo-prohibitionist Dr. Kevin Sabet and a handful of medical researchers. It describes itself as a project of the Policy Solutions Lab, a Cambridge, Massachusetts, a drug policy consulting firm headed by Sabet.

SAM emphasizes a public health approach to marijuana, but when it comes to marijuana and the law, its prescriptions are a mix of the near-reasonable and the around-the-bend. Rational marijuana policy, SAM says, precludes relying "only on the criminal justice system to address people whose only crime is smoking or possessing a small amount of marijuana" and the group calls for small-time possession to be decriminalized, but "subject to a mandatory health screening an marijuana-education program." The SAM version of decrim also includes referrals to treatment "if needed" and probation for up to a year "to prevent further drug use."

But it also calls for an end to NYPD-style "stop and frisk" busts and the expungement of arrest records for marijuana possession. SAM calls for an end to mandatory minimum sentences for marijuana cultivation or distribution, but wants those offenses to remain "misdemeanors or felonies based on the amount possessed."

For now, SAM advocates a zero-tolerance approach to marijuana and driving, saying "driving with any amount of marijuana in one's system should be at least a misdemeanor" and should result in a "mandatory health assessment, marijuana education program, and referral to treatment or social services." If a scientifically-based impairment level is established, SAM calls for driving at or above that level to be at least a misdemeanor.

Less controversially, SAM advocates for increased emphasis on education and prevention. It also calls for early screening for marijuana use and limited intervention "for those who not progressed to full marijuana addiction."

For a taste of SAM's kinder, gentler, neo-prohibitionist rhetoric, David Frum's Monday CNN column is instructive. "We don't want to lock people up for casual marijuana use -- or even stigmatize them with an arrest record," he writes. "But what we do want to do is send a clear message: Marijuana use is a bad choice."

Marijuana use may be okay for some "less vulnerable" people, Frum writes, but we're not all as good at handling modern life as he is.

"But we need to recognize that modern life is becoming steadily more dangerous for people prone to make bad choices," he argues. "At a time when they need more help than ever to climb the ladder, marijuana legalization kicks them back down the ladder. The goal of public policy should not be to punish vulnerable kids for making life-wrecking mistakes. The goal of public policy should be to protect (to the extent we can) the vulnerable from making life-wrecking mistakes in the first place."

Marijuana legalization advocates are having none of it. And they level the charge of hypocrisy in particular at Kennedy, whose family made its fortune selling alcohol. The Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) has called on Kennedy to explain why he wants to keep "an objectively less harmful alternative to alcohol illegal" and has created an online petition calling on him to offer an explanation or resign as chairman of SAM.

"Former Congressman Kennedy's proposal is the definition of hypocrisy," said MPP communications director Mason Tvert. "He is living in part off of the fortune his family made by selling alcohol while leading a campaign that makes it seem like marijuana -- an objectively less harmful product -- is the greatest threat to public health. He personally should know better."

Nor did Tvert think much of SAM's insistence that marijuana users need treatment.

"The proposal is on par with forcing every alcohol user into treatment at their own cost or at a cost to the state. In fact, it would be less logical because the science is clear that marijuana is far less toxic, less addictive, and less likely to be associated with acts of violence," Tvert said.

"If this group truly cares about public health, it should be providing the public with facts regarding the relative harms of marijuana and discouraging the use of the more harmful product," Tvert said. "Why on earth would they want keep a less harmful alternative to alcohol illegal? Former Congressman Kennedy and his organization should answer this question before calling on our government to start forcing people into treatment programs and throwing them into marijuana re-education camps."

Project SAM is out of step with current public opinion, said NORML executive director Allen St. Pierre.

"There really aren’t that many people publicly opposing marijuana law reform these days," St. Pierre noted. "The fact that a liberal like Patrick Kennedy is joining with a conservative like David Frum speaks to a mainstream disconnect. Both these guys are seen as mainstream, but three-quarters of the population support medical marijuana and decriminalization, half the country supports legalization, and we know that in two states, 55% voted for legalization. I can't speak to why they're so politically tone deaf."

"Kevin Sabet recognizes the old approach is just done for -- just saying marijuana turns you into an addict is no longer working," MPP's Tvert told the Chronicle. "This is a thinly veiled attempt to maintain marijuana prohibition by appealing to the sensibilities of people who recognize it’s a failure. They are clutching at straws. If they truly think people shouldn’t have their lives ruined for marijuana, they shouldn’t be proposing it be kept illegal."

"We are well past the epoch of the A.M. Rosenthals and the Joe Califanos," said St. Pierre, referring to ardent drug warriors of yore. "The mainstream media has moved away from the type of Reefer Madness that Frum and Kennedy are trying to engage in," he said. "Their advocacy is based on Kevin Sabet's rhetoric, and it's an extension of a failed policy. They're trying to buy time and delay marijuana law reform."

The political terrain has undergone a seismic shift with the November election results, and the rhetorical terrain has been shifting (reality not so much) away from drug war talk under the Obama administration. Now, Project SAM can join drug czar Kerlikowske is hoping talking more gently can thwart the progress of marijuana legalization.

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 * Patrick has acknowledged

 

* Patrick has acknowledged being treated for cocaine use during his teenage years, and admitted that he abused drugs and alcohol while he was a student at Providence College. 

* Patrick assaulting a security guard at an airport checkpoint in 2000. He paid an undisclosed civil settlement to the alleged victim almost two years later. 

 * Also in 2000, Atlantic Navigation Company of Mystic, Connecticut, claimed that a boat they rented to Patrick Kennedy was found abandoned off Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts, with US$28,000 worth of damage.

* In 2003, Kennedy was criticized for saying "I have never worked a f***ing day in my life"

* On May 4, 2006, Patrick crashed his automobile into a barricade on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. A Capitol Police official said the congressman had appeared intoxicated, but Kennedy claimed that he was merely disoriented from prescription medications Ambien and Phenergan. Anonymous sources are alleged to have seen Kennedy drinking at the nearby Hawk & Dove bar prior to the accident.

* On May 5, 2006, Kennedy admitted that he had an addiction to prescription medication and announced he would be re-admitting himself to a drug-rehabilitation facility at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota where he has sought treatment for prior addictions. He has stated that he has no recollection of the car crash. 

* On Friday, June 12, 2009, Kennedy again announced that he "has checked into a medical facility for treatment".  

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Should be

Kennedy was treated for drug abuse. It was and should be treated as a health, not a legal problem. If Kennedy were treated for alcohol abuse thise way, there would be no problem

But if was you or me...

Instead of a rich kid from an influential family, we'd be sitting in jail, with NO recourse to treatment.

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Marijuana use is a ? choice.

"what we do want to do is send a clear message: Marijuana use is a bad choice"

We should definitely question the validity of this statement, because according to the CDC alcohol causes 80,000 deaths every year while marijuana causes none.

Marijuana is a significantly milder, safer and less addictive alternative to alcohol and we could prevent a lot of harm in society by letting people choose marijuana instead of alcohol.

Is marijuana use a "bad choice"? Compared to perpetual sobriety the answer is we really don't know, compared to alcohol the answer is absolutely NOT!

Sovereigty?

The World is chuck-full of "bad choices" and "WE, the people" endorsed a Constitution expressly limiting the Powers of the central government to interfere or STOP us from jumping off tall buildings, standing in front of a speeding passenger train, shooting-up with heroin, abusing tobacco, alcohol, and aspirin, riding a motorcycle without a helmet on a busy highway or over the brink of Niagra Falls without a Constitutional Amendment!

"WE" have enjoyed our Four Freedoms for so long that "WE" have forgotten what they were!  If you don't believe me, tell your grandchildren what you and your chums used to do in and after school and watch them stare starry-eyed at you and not believing a thing your telling them.  Yesterday, (Jan. 08, 2013) a five-year old boy was expelled from school for pointing his finger at a class-mate and shouting "BANG" at recess during a kid's game of "cops and robbers"!!

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actually...

"we the people" NEVER endorsed nor approved the constitution...the constitutional convention did that...for them "people" meant white anglo males with land. the "four freedoms" were enumerated by franklin delano roosevelt on januray 16, 1941...they are: freedom from want, freedom from fear, freedom of speech and freedom of worship...

STATUTORILY EXEMPT!

Anybody who would Champion the argument that the abuse of almost anything is good for one's health has a losing argument, however, I wonder how these Champions of the SAM-movement to STOP marijuana legalization feel about Our Federal Constitution for self-government by "WE, the people"?  The Constitution's Eighteen Enumerated Powers confers NO (nata) federal legislative jurisdictional authority for Congress to enact a federal criminal statute that would PROHIBIT, FORBID, or make it UNLAWFUL or a "federal-crime" for any person at random to buy, sell, use, or abuse, rope, poison, razor-blades, cocaine, heroin, marijuana, or controlled substances, whatever they are now or ever will be.  "WE, the people" of these United States are a sovereign people and the Constitution does not authorize the federal government to take-away Our right to abuse ourselves or intentionally jump from tall buidings or bridges to commit suicide or pull a weed and bake brownies or smoke the weed without an Amendment to the Constitution and the good news is, the Ninety-First Congress didn't!

For over 40 years, in a manner that can only be called "imperium-Emporium", the Executive and Judicial Branch of the Government of the United States have arbitrarily arrested, prosecuted, adjudicated, convicted, and taken-away the life, liberty, and property, of hundreds of thousands of men and women, and then imprisoned them for a combined millions of years for conduct admitted or found to be; "[i]n violation of Title 21, United States Code, Section 841(a)(1)" in the most repugnant FRAUD ever conducted by a government against its Own People in the History of the World and still worse, the "movers and shakers" in Washington know it!

There is not now, nor can there ever be, without Amendment, any Congressional enacted federal criminal statute signed into Public Law by the President of the United States that would prescribe a punishment for any person at random to buy, sell, use, or abuse, melons, marijuana, cabbage, cocaine, hot-dogs, heroin, or "controlled subtances"!  WANNA BET?  I do!    

decriminalizing Marijuana Won't Work

These guys don't realize decriminalizing marijuana will leave the black-market, criminals, and all the bad things involved in marijuana in place. As far as driving, any DUI law must prove the driver was impaired. Other wise this is just a back door possession law.

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. . . these guys don't realize . . .

N, no, no.  They realize. They Completely & Totally realize.

get the pills outta your

get the pills outta your system befor you in the same breath talk about cannabis!

How can we the people hold

How can we the people hold the federal Government to the standards set forth by the people(?) when you can't sue the Govt, due to it's workers are protected? So,....... You don't re-elect the same stick in the mud people who get reelected each and every year and expect or even hope they going to change. Change is not in their vocabulary! We need B. Smith, T. Jones, A. Johnson, NOT, P. Kennedy who has had how many arrests and is addicted to how many illegal items? 

 Guys like kennedy and kevin

 Guys like kennedy and kevin sabet are out of touch with reality.But that aside the bottom line is they simply do not give a shit,its all about money,remember great great gramps or whoever he was the alcohol smuggler,yea he was really concerned about nothing but money.They are hipoctates plain and simple.

What they reallly do is make me sick to my stomach.

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Man i have heard a lot of crap pertaining to Marijuana,these people that r against MJ seem to not know anything about it,while most of us have smoke for 25yrs or more and r healthy,check my liver to a drinker's anytime,and the people that want it legal r mostly not hell raiser's like the people that drink,Dig this they wanted their alcohol so dam bad that they killed a lot of peopleto get it,until the gov'mt had enuff of the killin.Only then they past it as legal with no stipulation's at all like driving while drunk as a skunk and people still die from that devil's piss,everyday,but u people accept that as normal i don't get it just as cigarettes kill to every dam day,and ur ok with that well im not,outlaw alcohol and cigarettes then i will lay my pipe down forever,and u know i can do it,u can't u would be sick withdrawals out the ass,would i have any no sir none,so check facts and be logical instead of stupid,,,

u

this is stupid,,,

Kennedy comedy central

Never underestimate the ability of a Kennedy to draw attention.  In this case, it is a comedy that will go down as a blunder in the  Kennedy history.

Recall what happens to rats

Recall what happens to rats when they are backed into a  corner. Now, imagine the rats were already insane to begin with. Now you have the prohibs pegged perfectly.

The BS, the lies, the ivory-tower sophistries, the prohibs could get away with it so long as they were able to stay out of the limelight. If the raving prohib loons could be kept out of sight, and a facade of rationality maintained, the public didn't bother. And it helped that many voters were of an age and mindset to believe anything the Gub'mint said as Gospel, and swallowed prohib BS uncritically, and voted for pols who repeated the lies.

But that generation is passing, and a new one, experienced in the truth regarding cannabis and other drugs, and resentful of the intelligence-insulting lies told it by officialdom, has come into its' own. And one of its' first acts as a generation was to vote for cannabis legalization.

The importance of this cannot be underestimated. The generation that was targeted for an intensive literally-from-the-cradle propaganda onslaught designed to make them little Pavlovian drug-averse robots...turned around and spat in the face of their tormenters, and voted for relegalization. Make no mistake: <i>what happened Election Day was  a 'vote of no confidence' in the DrugWar, <b>a vote cast by those for whom it was ostensibly fought</b></i>

The DrugWar has lost its' legitimacy in the eyes of those who now have the economic, social and political power to end it. In short, that generation has called "BULLSH-T!" on a national policy that only favors a demonstrable - and IDENTIFIABLE - minority that has gotten fat, dumb and happy riding the DrugWar gravy train.

The worm has finally turned. And the more the prohibs are backed into a corner, the crazier they'll get, the carefully crafted PR mask will crack. More and more of the public will see behind the facade; they'll  see and hear the barely-hidden authoritarian "Do as I say, not as I do!" foundation of the DrugWar...and those who profit from that mindset, having incorporated it themselves. You can imagine the electorate's response might be, come next election cycle. A thought which, I am quite sure, is keeping the lights on very late at ONDCP, DEA, etc.

MUMBO JUMBO!

While "WE, the sheeple" continue to complain about America's Luciferian and Moralistic "WAR on DRUGS", the DEA continues it's WAR under color of FRAUD!  Hitler was right when he said; "In the size of the lie is always contained a certain factor of credulity, since the masses of people . . . will more easily fall victims to a great lie than to a small one."  THERE IS NO CONGRESSIONAL ENACTED FEDERAL PENAL STATUTE  signed into to Public Law by the President of the United States that would PROHIBIT, FORBID, or make it a FEDERAL-CRIME for any person at random or targeted by the DEA to buy, sell, use, or abuse marijuana, cocaine, heroin, hallucinates, or controlled substances, whatever they are now or ever will be!  Wanna bet?  I DO!  READ THE STATUTES Title 21, United States Code, Section(s) 801, 802(6), 821, 822(b), 841(a)(1), 841(b) and 885!

Tricky-Dick, his White House plumbers and civil rights violators have "hung themselves with their own petard"!  Taken together, the Ninety-First Congress has STAUTORILY EXEMPT any person NOT REGULATED from the ambit of federal jurisdictional authority to arrest, prosecute, convict, and punish any person NOT REGISTERED by the Attorney General for federal jurisdiction to be federally regulated in the closed commercial system of controlled substances!  WANNA BET?  I DO!  

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I read Frum's article over at CNN

Long, rambling barely coherent analogy about college loans or whatever, he goes so far off topic to make his analogy it loses the reader's interest.  He keeps implying that no one can really use marijuana responsibly and those who "think" they can are deluding themselves, then he adds insult to injury with the whole "but even if those few people can use it responsibly, they should just be happy with public opinion being more tolerant of them now."

SMART is anything but.

"WAR"

End the "War on Drugs"
42 years | $2.5 Trillion | 45 million arrests

NOT BAD for a FRAUD!  WAKE UP AMERICA!  Do you honestly believe that without a constitutional amendment, the central government of the United States has legal and constitutional authority to arrest, prosecute, and imprison any person at random for pulling a weed and smoking it, well, do you?  If you do, then WHY pray tell, does it take an amendment to the Constitution to enable 18 year olds, women, and African Americans to vote, and WHY pray tell, would it take an amendment to the Constitution to make it a federal-crime to burn the American flag when the American flag stands for the right to burn it or to make it LAWFUL or UNLAWFUL for folks of the same sex to marry?  The World is full of "choices" and "WE, the sovereigns" have a constitutional right to buy, sell, use, or abuse, alcohol, tobacco, heroin, cocaine, marijuana, hallucinates, ketchup, mustard, diets, and Christmas trees, the choice is ours to make!  WAKE UP SHEEPLE, BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!

A Memo to Frum

I don't know if they'll print it, but I submitted following at CNN under the Frum article:

"Mr. Sabet [i.e. Frum, I was to dumb to read carefully] makes many good points about financialization and cleverization of the economy and society, which make “simple-minded” hands-on workerly individuals (like sort of me) disadvantaged compared to a bureaucratically gifted elite with an “attention-span” which tolerates boringly tedious procedural minutiae.

"I wish he would examine some of the technical traps that would-be cannabis users have been falling into– such as the hot burning overdose monoxide cigarette papers “smoking” fallacy, and investigate safe moderate use procedures now available such as the vaporizer, the e-cigarette (models designed for ingesting cannabinoids instead of nicotine) and the simple method of vaporizing with a one-hitter (hold the flame far enough away that a 25-mg serving of cannabis in a screened mini-pipe is bathed in 385F heat but not ignited). To say “cannabis itself” is to blame for traffic accidents or drug addiction (cigarettes 435,000 deaths a year, alcohol 80,000) is too simple-minded even for me.

"The SAM agenda may be sincere but it plays into the hands of the tobacco industry which does not want its HIGH PROFIT cigarette format to crash under accusations originating among cannabis users who got wise to the “joint”. So blame the cannabis and just don’t try it.

Mass debate!

I just signed the petition but may I suggest that it's actually a good thing to have this group out there because they expose the fallacy in the argument for prohibition. 


Best of all, they also provide the marijuana movement with a target to focus on. Challenge them to a debate. You have some pretty good talkers in the movement. I just saw Ethan Nadelmann put in an award winning performance on Fox the other day.Get these guys into a televised debate and you will rip them to pieces.

I agree, challenge the jokers to debate

The emperor has no clothes and the people are starting to laugh at him in large numbers. Shame the prohibs into debating if necessary, since they have a long history of avoiding debate and dialogue.

Kennedy is likely a weak

Kennedy is likely a weak minded, highly religious person who lacks any self responsibility.  This Kennedy probably has little self control and abuses everything in his life.  People like Kennedy should not be doing marijuana, nor anything else a normal, responsible human would.  Stick this guy on a plane and send him to North Korea.

Weak minded, yes

Lacking in personal accountability, yes.  Religious?  I don't think so.  My first thought was to wonder how much he's taken from the pharmaceutical industry in campaign donations.  I don't believe it has anything to do with his actual personal beliefs.  He's another cynical, self-serving, arrogant jackass.  These people don't believe the things they say, they just make money saying them.

David Frum's been on minute 16 for ages.

SMART says Americans aren't smart

Their stance is basically that people, in general, are dumb... and that we needed to be protected from our stupidity?  This is the same bogus line of reasoning that led to idiotic legislature like banning Big Gulp sized soft drinks in New York.  So, stuffing a bunch of calories down your throat is a bad choice... so make all bad choices illegal?  SMART's position in this debate is downright insulting... every American should feel insulted, whether you're against prohibition or for.

Read more of Frum's stuff...

First off, correction, I've been calling it SMART the last few posts, apparently the organization is named SAM. My bad.

Second off... This guy is an ass... read his rebuttals to a couple replies to his CNN article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/10/don-t-legalize-marijuan...

 

His stance on most everything is the "anti-popular" stance.  He supports the Big Gulp ban.. he wants strict gun control... he literally thinks that most Americans are too stupid and should have less freedom because they're not smart enough to handle those freedoms.

This is about as un-American a core belief as I've ever heard.  I seriously want to write a letter to this loser admonishing his position on all political matters.  I think this boy was dropped on the head as a baby.

marijuana

 Thank God you all have come out against this mad attack on us again  . I thank each and everyone who has given a comment as to this issue  , together we shall show these prohibitionist  type person how really crule they are and how there will is to continue plundering for there own gain  , in refusing  regulation in working in concert with the government agency state side   is otter madness  and nothing more then an attack on all of us  Kennedy  as a politician is over  alone with his  son of S.A.M devil  club  we all know what S.A.M really stand for  but i can not put it up here as i would lose right to print  figure it out  ??? anyhow  this group can kiss my A*% and if you ever show face in Massachusetts   I will be there and vocal 

 Massvocals

What happened to 'our' free country?

 

"...the essence of tyranny is the enforcement of stupid laws,”
---Edmund Burke 
 

Preaching to the Choir

rListen folks, all the above comments have been correct and to the point, however, all we're doing is preaching to the choir.  We're all on board here.  What we need to do is talk to other people.  Talk to our parents, spouse, children, grandchildren, members of our churches, work mates, anyone who will listen.  Write our members of Congress, our local newspapers and become evangilists for the cause of ending prohibition in all it's forms.  If we don't try to convert the nonbelievers to our cause, what good are we?  I am always trying to turn the tide of opinion in our favor, and have had a small measure of success.  If we all do it, we can get rid of the rascals inpairing our freedoms so many people have died to protect.

Get beyond the echo chamber

DLW is absolutely correct in urging drug reformers to spread their message outside of websites which support their own views. I remember in the late 90s Dan Baum had just written his excellent book on the drug war, "Smoke and Mirrors". He was a speaker at a Drug Policy Foundation conference in Washington DC. He expressed how those at the conference were the same people each year meeting with the same message and that as a movement we needed to reach outside of the drug reform community to engage people who may not agree with our message. 

With proliferation of blogs, just about every newspaper and cable TV websites has one. It's quite easy to find a story on drug policy or drug arrests and put your two cents out there. Your posting will likely draw an opposition POV or you could respond to some prohibitionist's posting and embark in a lively exchange. Baum's message was true then and is still true today.

 

 

  

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pass this along... make it Viral

if your on a jury for any type of pot offense... refuse to convict... all it takes is one juror ... its how the Volstead act became a footnote in history and its how we the people should deal with this poor public policy debate... If we refuse to convict for any pot offenses then lawmakers will be forced to act...

 

pass to along to anybody who will listen... make it viral...

If you make it happen in this way, this war on us will be over ...because WE say it is...

Here they go again

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_22357044/marijuana-debate-isnt-just-legalization-vs-incarceration

Another editoral by these SAM goons.  I'm beginning to think SAM stands for "Secret Alliance to Marijuana", because their position in this debate is so absurd, it will just serve to turn more and more people who read it towards legalization.  After all, their primary argument is how stupid the American people are!

We can't handle because we're not smart enough!  That's the message of SAM.

Don't Step on the Grass, SAM

This reminds me of the Steppenwolf tune. Self-righteous Sam, the government rep on a TV discussion panel, outlines his objections to marijuana legalization: "Well, it's evil, wicked, mean and nasty. And it will ruin our fair country. It will hook your Sue and Johnny. All will pay who disagree with me." Now, over 40 years later, we get these same arguments repackaged and sold to us by another SAM trying to sound cool. Same insanity sported by the same kind of self-righteous people. "Please give up, you've already lost the fight alright."

Yea , boy

Ol` Patrick Kennedy , haha , looks like the assistant to the Vice President of the Paul Ryan Fan Club . This is beyond ridiculous . Almost psychedelic in nature . A Kennedy as a Cannabis expert . A drunk , pilled up Kennedy at that . Psychopath anyone ?

Cannabis Use

First off, there is nothing called marijuana. That was a made up name applied to cannabis to move it away from the plant used for rope manufacturing. After the lobbyist "convinced" the politicians to outlaw it on the grounds it would make a person insane as well as a bunch of other negative things, the government used this law to outlaw hemp since it is genetically the same plant less the "get high" part. This supposedly was to benefit DuPont chemical as they had supposedly come up with a crude oil based extract oil for use in oil based paint. Hemp seed oil had been used in it since who knows when. All of those 100 plus year old building that still have the original paint on them was hemp oil based paint. Of course, the new oil version wore out in just a few years requiring everything to be repainted every so many years.

     The use of marijuana has a lite "addiction" to it because if you run out of it, you miss the relaxing effects and good feeling you get from using it, but it is nothing like the withdrawal from hard drugs, alcohol, nor tobacco. A couple of times over a period of two or three days of missing it is about the extent of the "addiction" - less distress than being out of coffee. all of this other stuff is total bullshit likely imagined by people who have never even used cannabis. If you have never used it, you need not be lying to people by acting like you know about the effects and withdrawal form it. I agree it is something that should not be given to kids just because they do not know what they are doing with it. And I am sure that there may be a few people that are allergic to it or who do not enjoy the effects of it but everything grow anywhere has the same few reactions. I would say that if you have never tried it, wait to form an opinion for a year or two and watch the results of people using legal cannabis before you listen to the trash talkers. I expect great and wonderful things to be discovered using this plant.

I'll pain my house green

Amazing that we can make oil based paints out of hemp oil.  I'll paint my house with it, and furnish everything from the carpet to the chairs and tables, all out of hemp.  Wait, is that even possible?  Well, somehow I'll make it work.  Now all we need is that whole legalization thing.

DuPont + Mellon = Fascism

Donald,

   You barely scratched the surface in terms of righteous opprobrium to be heaped upon fascist monopolists, & seemingly left out Hemp entirely. I believe the history supports that the PTB (Mellon, inside the gub'mint, DuPont's banker) at the time manipulated a technological cusp point in American industrial development and one wondrous plant that thrives without fertilizers & pesticides had to go away. This is so outrageously, HOWL-lingly, heinous, it doesn't even get mentioned.

      I agree we've much to learn, & benefit from, come proper Cannabis medical research. It WILL be huge. But, bigger still, will be the range of applications found for the fodder of the whole plant. The key will be local processing, adding value close to home. Each local economy differentiating uniquely, according to its gifts & ingenuities.

Project SAM is a SCAM

Kevin Sabet and David Frum are deliriously happy their Project SAM scam finally has some name recognition now that Patrick Kennedy is on board.   It’s also clear three stooges always work better on stage than a mere two stooges.

Frum and Sabet may even believe that hanging out with a Kennedy is going to rescue them from the lowest depths of bureaucratic and social malaise, offering them a step up the social ladder, maybe even marriage to a Kennedy woman.  They would be wrong to believe that.

Patrick Kennedy is playing his professional victim card, something that’s incompatible with supporting a tyranny.  Victimage is supposed to eliminate tyrannies such as prohibition, not sustain them. 

By involving himself, Kennedy guarantees his own infamy, as do all anti-liberals who support tyrants.  He cannot see that prohibition is sinking, that anyone tied to the bad ship prohibition is going down with it.  

As victims go, young Patrick is as much a drug war victim as any other drug user.  Had the truth about marijuana and other drugs been more forthcoming from the government, had weed been more obtainable, Patrick might otherwise have preferred to stick with illegal marijuana, while avoiding legal alcohol and the legal Big Pharma drugs that got him into so much trouble.

political fame

You're right.. they see the hard road for legalization ahead, and they want to oppose it under the grounds that if somehow that status quo doesn't change, they can then take credit for "defeating" legalization.

Luckily for us, that will never, ever happen.  We will prevail.

SAM don't know, but erybody else do

Just about everywhere you read about the hoodwinks this week, it's obvious that most people get it and aren't going to tolerate their golddigging charades. The great thing is that everyone is speaking up and that's what it's going to take to make changes.

 

Of course the prohibitionists will fight to the end but the end is now near.

 

Let's keep the pressure on. We need to end this BS drug testing and demonization and get on with our lives. Use the  NORML and MPP websites to tell this government that you want the drug war to END.

 

http://capwiz.com/norml2/officials/congress/?district=10&lvl=C&azip=18801&state=PA 

 

https://secure2.convio.net/mpp/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=415 

Make the GOOD job choice

Yes, end BS drug testing---- but UNTIL they do, consider not bothering to seek an asskissing obedience job, rather

(a)  kick money-spending habits (except riefer) and

(b) get involved in an (admittedly at first low-paying) entrepreneurial venture based on manufacturing long-stemmed choomette, kiseru, midwakh or sebsi one-hitters (to replace HBOM hot burning overdose monoxide rolling papers) and marketing them through a friendly tourist headshop in Amsterdam, Washington,. Colorado or Uruguay.

(c) edit, illustrate, improve wikiHow.com/Make-Smoke-Pipes-from-Everyday-Objects, so anyone in Brisbane or Tierra del Fuego can bone up on the HANDFWORK technology, fly to your city and work with you to maximize output and (guaranteed green) profits. 

Look at this idiotic article I found on Google

I run a daily search for Marijuana on Google, with Advanced Search option "last 24 hours."  Every now and then, doing this search finds something amusing to read.. because of how bad it is.  This is one of them...

http://www.rightwingnews.com/culture/a-thoughtful-look-at-the-marijuana-legalization-trend/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rightwingnews%2FhGmL+(Right+Wing+News)

 

I find it hilarious that they lay it on so THICK in that article.  Almost every single "fact" presented there is disputed by at least some study out there.. it's every single stereotypical bit of anti-weed propaganda we've come to know and love, all rolled up into an idiotic, opinion-infested, supra-biased lie-fest... and the best part? Almost anyone who's smoked weed at least once in their life will immediately recognize that the article is full of lies.  That's how much she stretches the truth.

Can these people just roll over and go to bed already?  Legalization shouldn't be stopped.. the Sentate Judicial committee agrees... I mean just look marijuana arrests surpass all violent crime arrests.. COMBINED!  That is DISGUSTING.. It fills me with rage and hatred... fuck the war on drugs.. shit will end now or later, but the end is most certainly coming.  There will be plenty more funny stoner movies and hip hop songs promoting weed in the near future to ensure even if WE dont' win somehow, the generations to come will be more and more accepting until we finally shut down this bullshit war on drugs FOREVER.

Petition denied

T_T

 

http://blog.norml.org/2013/01/22/federal-court-of-appeals-denies-petition-to-reschedule-marijuana/

 

We were all expecting this outcome, of course, but still stings a little.  For all the progress drugreformers have made.. they still have a long way to go.

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Attention

Did that catch your eye? This is all Patrick wants; free, wide-spread PR to get his name out there and possibly advance his own agenda. And tying your name to a highly debated issue like marijuana legalization is just the way to do it. He has no qualifications. He's a Kennedy, and thinks that will get him somewhere.

This Guy!

Why you people take so much time and effort to write about a drug addict

 

retarded stupid piece of crap like this ass hole!!!!!!!!!

Patrick Kennedy

Patrick wants all things banned merely to make it easy for himself to not be tempted! If he's still tempted, he needs more psych help which he can easily afford! This isn't caring for others, it's all about him!

Backlash

The more states that legalize,the more panic and knee jerk reaction we will see from the prohibitionists.Sounding reasonable is a different tactic for these people.I guess the fact that they have no real good argument for the maintaining of this prohibition undercuts the hard line stance they held for so many years?It doesn't change the fact that treatment for cannabis is the backbone of the treatment industry.It's the reason for the drug courts that have sprung up around the country,which feed the treatment centers with pot smoking kids.It might be better than a straight shot to prison but it's patently dishonest and very costly.There has to be treatment available to anyone who needs it and they should be able to go whenever the need arises.Sending kids who get caught smoking a joint to mandatory treatment with the threat of prison if they don't find the cure,and this isn't an idle threat,is just wrong.There are places where addicts are put on waiting lists while cannabis smoking kids are taking spaces that they just do not require.The real reason they love to treat cannabis addiction is because of the great cure rate.Possibly because there was no disease in the first place?Heroin addicts,on the other hand,and meth addicts as well have at least a 50% chance of failure.Of this 50% a large number will fall off the wagon within a year.No wonder the industry would rather pad their successes with cannabis smokers who suffer no withdrawal and have little trouble staying clean for the term of their probation.

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