Prop 19 Hits 52% in Poll -- California Legalizing Marijuana?

Prohibition = Abdication from the responsibility to regulate the sale of drugs to adults & this = Anarchy. Just the opposite of what we are being lead to believe by prohibitionists, alcohol prohibition & it's repeal via legalization = regulation. Federal drug prohibition began almost 100 years ago. Drugs are cheaper, purer, & more readily available (to all ages) than before prohibition began. Cannabis prohibition began in 1937 when there was no public call for it. Making cannabis the 'forbidden fruit' has increased demand 5000% since Nixon's time. Prohibition has done such a good job of increasing supply & demand for drugs that it's impossible for legalization to increase drug use more than it is now. In fact, licensed merchants card for age, don't expose alcohol buyers to heroin, & collect sales tax. 60% of drug cartel profits come from cannabis sales. Legalize cannabis like alcohol & tobacco. Then we'll have reduced the drug gangs enough to figure out what to do with the hardcore drugs. I'm thinking 'Harm Reduction' . This costs 1/10th as much as prison & maintenance for the 1.5% of true addicts will reduce property crimes & drug cartels. Visit LEAP.cc for info. Let's start by voting 'YES' on Prop. 19. Regulate, not abdicate.  

is wrong.  Anarchy is simply "leaderless".  Other than that little thing, fairly good post.

Your wrong.. Hes right.. (leaderless) Unless you think of the "cartels" as our leader and that they might be

But To me WE have no leader so yes anarchy started.. If this was kept by the gov. we might have not even seen these high potencys we have today.

Sure there still would have been smart people out there that could create it,

But it would have been more stable. I smoke but hardly as much as i used too because of my newly found anxiety attacks that run wild in my jeans and i find if the potency is higher it causes it to last longer.. but when i take simple bud im right back to normal. When i dont have my attacks i can smoke high-dro like no tommorow but i choose not to most of the time and at night when the little ones sleepin with a hit of call of duty. Please legalize this so i can get the right potency to really attack my anxiety and get back to a better life. Thanks to everybody voting yes and to everybody who has this been fighting this.. 

Prop 19 will pass with 64% of the vote. Watch and see.

As the UK government doesn't do much without approval from the Americans, weed smokers over here are awaiting the result in November with eager anticipation. They downgraded cannabis in the UK a few years ago, but the idiot Gordon Brown put it up again, I think probably to please his buddy Bush.

Not the Americans are finally seeing some sense on the issue of marijuana it will be interesting to see how the rest of the world follows suit? Already they have extremely liberal laws in Portugal, Holland, Czech Republic and Spain.

On a serious note, this is an important issue, billions of people around the world are in pain because they are not allowed access to the one medicine that can alleviate their suffering or are criminalised and risk imprisonment, because they chose to break these draconian and stupid laws prohibiting pot.

Considering the hard times we are about to have in the Western World, allowing the general population tobacco, alcohol and pot to numb up on might not be a bad thing! California has been hit very hard this time around when it comes to economics and they should go first, them the whole of the U.S.A.

Folks will lose jobs in spectacular portion as the dollar fails and the price of oil escalates to untouchable regions for the masses. Americans will go without medical care - they had their chance and blew it! Homes will be foreclosed as fast as the banks fail and cars will be sold at two for the price of one sales to get rid of them. The next round of depression will require  the drugging of the masses to endure.

China and American Uber-Rich playing money games on the Shanghai, Hang Seng, and Beijing stock boards will face a Chinese central government disposing of American debt instruments for real goods throughout the world and an America falling into Third World ship in rapid decline and so stoned they cannot panic and go to war over it

Remember: The Chinese communist/capitalists have severe penalties for their own concerning drugs!

I don't trust the government with the regulation as well. This is a horrible ballot prop that shouldn't' be on here. Let's focus on job creation rather than on a party drug that only puts the wrong image on California. We are going to be the laughing stock of the country. Even if it passes the State better act quickly because both Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman oppose the Prop so they will likely veto it. Let's work on getting rid of the deficit in the state, getting the illegals out and getting good honest hard working Californians back to work before we let this gateway drug become legal. It is already decriminalized, so the policing argument just doesn't make sense to me anymore,  so I don't see the point in Prop 19.

I was in northern CA this summer, and i talked to some citizens against legalizing marijuana, they said that legalizing it would take money from the local farmers and families selling it to the marijuana stores. they said that marijuana was there best sorce of economic stability. they where afraid if it became leagal than there whole city would go broke. This was in Eureka CA, and i stopped in many more cities along 101 from SF all the way north and everyone was saying the same thing. it was everywhere in every city i went that ppl where saying this.. they are selling it (leagally) to the weed stores so it is like a real job i would say. All my point is, is i dont think its gonna pass. I most have talked to A large amount of ppl who said its the whole towns main sorce of income... Thats alot of diff towns with alot of ppl voting NO

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There simply is no doubt that the right thing to do is to Legalize Cannabis. Look up the Federal Government's definition of a Schedule 1 Illicit Drug. Then tell me how we can possibly be living this real-time hypocrisy of having alcohol legal and cannabis illegal!?

I have had plenty of personal usage experience with both drugs. During my teenage years, I lived with an alcoholic stepfather that ended up killing himself with his alcoholism. I have seen people going through delirium tremens in their withdrawal to their 'physical addiction' to alcohol.

Personally, I know what the right thing to do is beyond any doubt.

Legalize the SAFER choice.

Soon after marijuana is legalized, Thousands of dollars will be saved as there will be no need to arrest someone with it, provide that person with a public defender, feed that person sandwiches in jail.

Maybe than we can go one day without hearing about the states budget troubles, and for goodness sake lay off some of these dead weight cops and state workers.

Marijuana will always be treated like alcohol in the work place, some employers will terminate you if your intoxicated and others will smoke with you, it depends on your line of work.

Everyone needs to stop thinking that the laws in this country control drugs etc, most people in this country are competent and able to decide what is best for themselves and for their lives, look at smoking cigarettes everyone did it in the 1950s it was cool but now that people know its deadly it has a much smaller group of users, and its legal! it just faded away and its not cool anymore.

Pot is for a select group of people and for the most part they seem perfectly normal while intoxicated, its the people that normally dont use it that have adverse affects and than think is bad for everyone, like other legal drugs some work well for some people but not everyone, for instance some people are allergic to penicillin and it could kill them dose that mean it should be made illegal, hell no it helps millions of people.

I am very upset at people that categorize pot with other drugs like Heroin, Meth, etc MARIJUANA WILL GROW AND REQUIRE NO PROCESSING OF ANY KIND JUST PLANT IT WATER IT AND USE IT FOR YOUR NEEDS AND WANTS ITS NATURAL AND ITS ALMOST FREE.

If we vote no on PROP 19 all of the users of Marijuana will obtain medical marijuana recommendation cards and will use the product anyway. If that happens it will continue to support illegal growing and importing of marijuana and there will be no control or taxes generated from its use. And yes you can easily get a recommendation for a back ache or headache.

Please understand 1 thing, Pot is sold at every street corner now, if prop 19 is approved Marijuana will be completely controlled and handled in a safer manner including quality control, prices will be more realistic and in turn the illegal importing will cease to exist.

The Distributors have spent money to setup the medical marijuana collectives therefore they have everything to lose if Prop 19 is approved, Remove all the Scammers and Peddlers vote yes and allow the state to protect the minors and keep some cash in this country for our future.

Well i dont know if you suffer from this problem in the states but Dodgy Bud in my opinion is a prime reason why we should have cannabis legalised here in the UK.

Dodgy Bud is the nickname we give here to cannabis that has been adulterated in ways such as spraying tiny glass beads onto plants in order to look more crystalies and adding other substances such as diesel horse tranquilisers to many hashes. They call these hashes soap bars here, for god sake you can tell from the name what they have in them, apparantly 80% of its volume is anything but cannabis.

Finally one of the other things that annoy me the weight of the bag after it is sprayed. people here are paying far too much for too little. For example i picked up 2g's for 20quid (quite standard price here) and i got 4 nice joints out of this. WHY? because nearly half the weight of the bag was full of damp we stuff.

Dont get me wrong i have received some really nice buds over the time here now that i am older and i know more people.

But imagine some of the youngsters here, most of them only know one or two low key dealers who are not going to have the best quality cannabis and will adultarate it. Meaning in my opinion this prohibition is affecting the young people more then benifiting.

If it was regulated yes usage may go up for the first two years, and yes teens may be able to get there hands on it easier through older friends etc, but at least the stuff will be cleaner.

I cant imagine 20g's of High grade non adultarated cannabis will worse then even taking 3 burns of glass beads and sugar granuals on your buds especially when there burned to extreeme temeratures.

EVEN STILL THOUGH

I belive that the main reason lies by that fact that it is sooooo easy to get. In ways it is easier to get then alcohol in ways it isnt depending on who you know. in the times it is not easy to get (drought etc) the dodgy kinds of weed are available with ease. I have been smoking for 6 years and there has never been a time i am not able to get hold of it. and even if there was one or two occasions when i could not get hold of it, Is that sucessful prohibition? and i can tell u this fact lies with everyone.

I went to my university and was given a card str8 away pretending to be a taxi firm but everyone in the campus knew what it was. you cut of one dealer another comes, its to rich of an industry,

Now for once i can say Please david cameron stick you head up Americas arse. Do not stop a century long habit haha

With regard to the comments that passage of Prop 19 will result in an explosion of Marijuana farms in front and back yards, and exceeding 25 square feet is complete nonsense. Large scale production of pot is already underway in Oakland regardless of whether or not prop 19 passes.  The City of Oakland approved 4 large scale growing permits (cost to the grower is $211,00 just for the permit, plus 2 million in liability insurance, plus a guaranteed minimum tax); therefore, large scale production of pot will occur regardless.  The price will probably come down as a result.  The small "Mom and Pop" growers are opposed for the reasons set forth above.  Whether the proposition passes or doesn't pass, the smaller growers will have to adjust to new market conditions, and some of the smaller growers will not survive the changing times.  The fact remains that growing high quality pot is hard work, and expensive.  The cost to grow a pound of high quality product runs between $450 to $650 per pound depending on the scale.  The cost drops considerably with the right equipment, and a larger scale operation.  There is nothing stopping anyone from currently obtaining their medical marijuana card and starting their own crop at home.  The fact is that most people do not have the time, space and resources to commit to growing their own.  Therefore, passage of prop 19 will do no more to cause an explosion of home pot farms anymore than repealing prohibition caused an explosion of home breweries.  Yea, some people brew their own beer, but it costs more than buying it at the grocery.  The better "Mom and Pop" growers will survive because they will cater more to the Connoisseur, and the quality of the marijuana will improve across the spectrum.  The large scale operations will be run by legitimate local business people, and not Mexican Cartels. Already there is one Large scale indoor growing operation which employs Union Workers (Teamsters local 70), these workers have a guaranteed wage, full medical benefits, a pension and a grievance procedure.  I recently obtained my medical marijuana card, and purchased enough hydroponic equipment to grow 12 plants (yes 12), The cost of the equipment came to about $2,500 and does not include any sophisticated indoor growing boxes.  The nutrients, salts and ph need to be checked once a day, the lighting and temperature need to be carefully monitored, and as I am growing the first plants from seed the cost of good seed came to about $300 (20 seeds).  If the crop is successful, the 12 plants should yield between 9 and 11 lbs . . At the market rate currently of about $3,200 per lb, it makes economic sense; however as the price drops to $1,500 per pound, it will be easier, simpler and carry far less risk to purchase it at the store . . In addition, the idea that somehow the large scale production of pot will result in a simultaneous large scale distribution to other states is also false.  A grower is not going to risk loosing a large capital investment by selling across state lines, and thereby risk loosing his growing permit and his expensive investment in equipment by breaking the law and having the permit revoked.  Doesn't make sense.   

 When marijuana is legalized, it will reduce drug dealing activity around the country. Legalizing marijuana will end drug cartel activity in the United States. When marijuana is legalized, law enforcement will spend less money and time on marijuana users and spend more time solving and going after REAL criminals. Taxing Marijuana will give back to the community and will take California out of debt. Marijuana is safer than consuming alcohol, in the conditions of health related issues. Marijuana should be sold as alcohol, age limit should be 18 and up, this will more likely educate people, especially the youth, responsibility comes first, when you grow up, "18 Years of age", you are free to smoke marijuana, with responsibility less youth will be tempted to use marijuana. Responsibility is the main priority to legalizing marijuana.

is it will stop our government from making profit on importing it .then then it will lead them to importing more cocaine and heroine so these criminals like the bush gang can keep the dough rolling in... legalize all drugs and put these despicable profiteers in human misery out of business

As a legal grower in cali,  people don't understand anything about it. It is scientificly proven that pot has only one bad effect, your lung compassidity will drop 3% but u know what cigarettes drop u 13% so i like them odds. Also the sicknesses it helps are great, afew have just been added by scientists like cancer, breast cancer, aids, hiv, stds ect.. Wouldn't u like to know you can slow them effects 10 fold, without kemo therapy? The rules are simple, age limit 21, must do it in private areas or home, no driving or going to work high or get some penalties that will not want to make you do it again trust me. religions are still trying scare tactics like always, like for example a church named 420 sells items and even medical pot but yet there against it? If it does not become legal, wait 4 years and try again its all we can do. At work 4 years ago I fell 30 feet through a roof and landed on concrete straight on my back, screwed up my kidney. pot helped my life recover and i'm better 110% and still smoke it today. Protest if you want cuz soon u can complain in your house by yourself.

All of you, on November 2 BETTER GET YOUR ASS OUT THERE AND VOTE! YES ON 19. ALL THE WAY.

annual American deaths caused by smoking marijuana = 0

 pass prop 19 legalize the green

To - What is the point ?

You Hillbillies need to keep your opinions to yourself since your NOT making any sense .

" Under god we trust " sound familiar ? how about " And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."?

America say's in God we Trust but god says he gave all seed bearing plants and herbs for medicine , and food. So does America truly believe in God ? If America is holding what he gave to us , for ransom , with money , greed an unacceptance. This is a medicine , one of the most important medicine we have , believe it or not. Helping Chemo patients , ASL patients , Helping with GI disorder . I could go on all day , check it out for your self there is a million videos , charts and doctor recommdations out there and American is blind to the sick and dieing and Gods word , and everyone is wondering why everything is falling apart .

Regardless of your personal opinion of whether marijuana is right for you, it is a FACT that marijuana is not chemically addictive, and is safer than both cigarettes and alcohol, both of which are legal. Wouldn't you rather your son or daughter spend the evening getting high and playing video games than have them go to a party, get drunk, and make a stupid decision? Marijuana use was prohibited due to the reefer madness that Reagan's administration created. What better way to win the presidential election than to gain support by a war on drugs? Reagan chose to publish false and tampered with medical experiments. If you're under the impression that marijuana has many negative health effects and is on the level of drugs such as cocaine, you are ignorant of the truth. I urge you to watch "The Union." "The Union" is a documentary on marijuana that reveals the truth and unearths the lies that many people have been told about this drug. Even if you are still against marijuana, it is INCREDIBLY easy to obtain. Your children would be much safer if this product was government-regulated. It would prohibit the sale of marijuana to adults under the age of 21. With how things are now, drug dealers sell marijuana to anyone who has money, regardless of their age. And who knows what can be added to marijuana when it is being sold on the streets. Whether you are for or against marijuana, prohibition has clearly failed. I really could go on and on about the benefits of legalizing marijuana. PLEASE find out true, accurate information about marijuana before you vote.

       People should notice the true facts about marijuana. It is actually NOT as effective as alcohol and has MANY positive affects. Do you see alcohol being used as medicine?!? Weed can be used to calm you down and maybe even HELP you learn. You might not know, I am 13 years old, and i smoke weed twice a week. Overall, I have noticed NO negative affects in my learning, or memory. People are much to ignorant to understand how marijuana is not as harmful as most media and anti-drug groups claim.. My Grade Point Average started actually increasing slightly little by little ever since I started smoking it.

       But now think a bit.. this comes from a 13 year old. Prop 19 would only allow the recreational use of pot to people over 21 years of age! By then your brain should be fully developed and the 'effects' should be even more unoticable.

       People that are saying no to prop 19.... need a blunt.

                      -13 yr old. Berkeley, Ca.

They say Cannabis is "medical" right? I dont think it's that hard for anyone to go see a doctor (some doctors let you apply right online) and let them regulate your use. I think its very easy these days to get a medical marijuana card, I dont understand whats wrong with the way its is "medical"...

All we are doing here is handing this huge market over to BIG Business to control, you guys are then taking away from ALL the small business caretakers who make a living growing high quality medical marijuana. This is not only opening the door for the gov to endlessly TAX marijuana, (they say it will drop prices, yes it will, till they tax it right back up to or more then where prices are now) But your handing control of the industry for to 2 to 3 big companies that will control the market. That will then put 1000's and 1000's of medical marijuana small business owners out of business. (what a great way to help the economy rob the poor and give to the rich, sounds like the last stimulus package)

Prop 19 sounds great, however, how many more KIDS will start smoking marijuana, younger and younger. It will start flooding schools, KIDS in middle school will be growing and smoking it A LOT MORE... I'm sure it's already going on, it will just get much wrose.. KIDS should think of marijuana as medicine not something that is as commen as corn.

Last, How does buying peoples marijuana that are on welfare sound??? Prop 19 will open the door to medical marijuana going to people on welfare and everyone working and paying taxing will flip that bill.

Dont get me wrong, I use medical marijuana. But it is like I said "medical marijuana" I think its fine just how it is...

   There is and will always be a market for marijuana simple economics of supply and demand the illegalization of marijuana has only forced this market underground to the cartels gangs e.t.c. This is not a law to legalize marijuana as it's to control it let's say if we made all fast food illegal silly i know people would be meeting behind a dumpster at seven eleven to get a big mac and fries. I know this might sound silly but it's the truth a law is not going to make it go away.

   Then there is the problem with quality control if people are going to smoke regardless of the law. Right now if you where to buy marijuana on the street you have no way of knowing what the strength or type your getting as some drug dealers lace marijuana with acid or embalming fluid e.t.c. to give it a kick.

   The concern about kids smoking marijuana I would say if your kid was going to try smoking just hypothetically speeking what enviroment would you want him or here to be in at home or at a friends house the street a dark ally and where would you want theme to get it from some one on the street or from a regulated store we could educate children on the use of marijuana just as we do for alcohol or cigarettes if your kid was going to drink a beer would you want theme to do it in front of you at home or at a friends house behind your back I will say being able to grow it as it states you can in prop 19 is a little to far for me I do not think every one should have pot plants in there back yard that would be a little crazy.

   so I would say that prop 19 is a matter of being responsible to educate people and if they decide to smoke to give theme a safe controlled regulated place to purchase there marijuana and the tax money could go to neighbor hood programs school's fire departments police e.t.c. because the money is there we are just putting it in the hands of criminals I say if you cant get rid of it you might as well put it to good use not saying that it will solve all of the money problems the state has but it will help.

Thank you :-)

I haven't seen where the other issue is addressed. That issue being the legalization of pot also means industrial hemp will be legal as well. This is a huge cash crop and can be used to replace cotton, fossil fuels and many others. It grows almost anywhere and there is no need for the use of pesticides and very little fertilizer. It would probably bring more revenues to the state than the marijuana.

If the Feds step on prop 19, it will be no different then THE GREAT STAT OF CALIFORNIA stepping on the will of the people on gay marriage!!!  One good turn deserves another.  People are so mislead on this issue, this will not bring all the tax dollars they think it will.  I for one don't want to walk out a store and smell some smoking a joint, no more than I want to smell cigarettes!!  I think medicinal marijuana is good enough.  Hell anyone can get a card so just get one.  This will just cause more work for law-enforcement, you wait and see.